For Genomelink Iberia it's an intersection, what do you think?

[Gallop]

What do you think of Genomelink's definition of Iberia in reference to Spain and Portugal?




This ancestry group encompasses Iberian and nearby lineages.

The Iberian Peninsula, a distinct region that includes modern-day Spain and Portugal, stands at the intersection of Europe, North Africa, and the Mediterranean. Its unique position has made it a focal point for various migrations and settlements, from the Phoenicians and Romans to the Moors and Sephardic Jews. The North African influence, particularly from the Moors, is a significant component of the Iberian genetic makeup, while Sephardic Jewish heritage introduces traces of Middle Eastern DNA.

Individuals with Iberian ancestry often display specific Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA haplogroups. For instance, the Y-chromosome haplogroup R1b is dominant in Western Europe and reaches its highest frequency in the Iberian Peninsula. E1b1b, rooted in North Africa or the Near East, is also found in significant proportions, especially in regions historically influenced by Moorish occupation. Another notable haplogroup, J2, might have been introduced by ancient Phoenicians, Greeks, or Sephardic Jews. On the mitochondrial side, haplogroup H is prevalent, having been in the region since the Last Glacial Maximum. Other mitochondrial haplogroups like U, K, and L also have a presence in Iberia, with K often associated with Jewish ancestry and L indicating sub-Saharan African connections. Genetic genealogists often use these markers to trace the lineage of individuals with Iberian roots, revealing a rich tapestry of historical influences and migrations.


I have the impression that he is taking us out of Europe in a veiled way.

What nationality is this company?

[Defcon2]

It seems correct to me, and how would you define the Iberian Peninsula?

What I don't like is that it omit nigga E1b1a at the expense of E1b1b as always happens, we are discriminated against.

[Abaddon]

This just confirms what i always says, dont take seriously commercial/amateur "calculators" and their companies aswell.

[Etelfrido]

Definitely an odd description.

Genetically speaking I think it makes even less sense because Iberians are shifted too Westwards to be considered a mix of the aforementioned populations.

What do they consider as a "significant component"?

[Touijer]

Seems very accurate, I don’t see where the problem is? I would add also that Df27 is the subclade needed to be an Iberian, R1b is too big to assign it to one population

[Abaddon]

Seems very accurate, I don’t see where the problem is?

You're the problem, genomelink literally says Iberia is apart from Europe (and North Africa aswell, to make you unhappy).

[Touijer]

You're the problem, genomelink literally says Iberia is apart from Europe (and North Africa aswell, to make you unhappy).

It’s not my fault you guys can’t read. They explicitly stated the Iberian Peninsula and said this peninsula is at the intersection of Europe, North Africa and the Mediterranean, which is true. Everyone knows it’s in Europe, Spaniards are always insecure when there’s North Africa involved it’s embarrassing at this stage

[Abaddon]

It’s not my fault you guys can’t read. They explicitly stated the Iberian Peninsula and said this peninsula is at the intersection of Europe, North Africa and the Mediterranean. Everyone knows it’s in Europe, Spaniards are always insecure when there’s North Africa involved it’s embarrassing at this stage

That's the least of the problems...

[Touijer]

That's the least of the problems...

Then don’t comment

[Abaddon]

Then don’t comment

Why not? you're even picking a fight that is not of your concern.