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    Default Why Mongolia Has Lower IQ Compared to Other East Asian Nations?

    What Genes caused this?

    IQ seems very hereditary. North Korea is one of the poorest nations on Earth, yet their IQ scores are still very similar to South Koreans.

    South Korea 103 IQ
    North Korea 100 IQ


    https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by kessaras View Post
    What Genes caused this?

    IQ seems very hereditary. North Korea is one of the poorest nations on Earth, yet their IQ scores are still very similar to South Koreans.

    South Korea 103 IQ
    North Korea 100 IQ


    https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php
    It is to a degree hereditary, but it's also due to education.

    And it makes sense, considering that Mongolians don't have nearly as many people having university degrees, let alone masters or bachelor's degrees.

    But I think the environment, which has certainly influenced genetics, plays a role here: big part of the Mongolian population is nomadic still. Too big in fact for a modern nation.
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    Selection based on survival rather than intelligence related traits. Selection pressures such as this can be quite rapid in a population. They still have a relatively high IQ in comparison to their condition of living and developpement, nowhere near the equivalent in Africa, and the same IQ than Israel for example, whereas Israeli are 10 times richer and in more developped society.

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    mongols are "smarter" than greeks? this iq thing must be an utter joke

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    Probably because they are proto-Turkic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tk'es View Post




    mongols are "smarter" than greeks? this iq thing must be an utter joke
    100% Garbo. Israel is also pretty high. [ Low iQ ] Mizrahi stand for the majority of Israelis.
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    Topics of IQ are very complex, so I won't focus on that specifically but to think that a low GDP means bad education isn't accurate at all. I know a lot of people here don't want to believe it but in the Eastern Bloc people were much more advanced educationally speaking than Westerners, in math alone the knowledge attained by someone in gr. 12 is similar these days to things a 6th grader would be learning in the Eastern Bloc. Mongolia has been far less industrial developing than North Korea, due to their large nomadic population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrzej View Post
    Topics of IQ are very complex, so I won't focus on that specifically but to think that a low GDP means bad education isn't accurate at all. I know a lot of people here don't want to believe it but in the Eastern Bloc people were much more advanced educationally speaking than Westerners, in math alone the knowledge attained by someone in gr. 12 is similar these days to things a 6th grader would be learning in the Eastern Bloc.
    Yes. This applies to all post-communist states more or less. I won't comment current PISA scores, but when I attended very good high school in US I was top of the class in math and calculus. Back home I struggled to get a passing grade. What they learned in HS we already did in elementary school. Even when it comes to literature, standards there were very low while back home you were expected to read about 2 serious classics per month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    Yes. This applies to all post-communist states more or less. I won't comment current PISA scores, but when I attended very good high school in US I was top of the class in math and calculus. Back home I struggled to get a passing grade. What they learned in HS we already did in elementary school. Even when it comes to literature, standards there were very low while back home you were expected to read about 2 serious classics per month.
    Indeed, the other day I was treated by a nurse from Portugal, and she told me that although salaries in Portugal are still low compared to Britain, at the same time their education is a lot more advanced and difficult.

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    What you expect they had(have ?) nomadic lifestyle and drink donkey milk. Borat-level culture has let them behind. Still a country that is very nice.

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