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Because they didn't use proto Slavs, just medieval eastern Euro Slavs.Originally Posted by MandM
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Man don't trust what those Greeks on eupidea say. Some of them threw a tantrum when I and others said that mainland Greeks had 30 to 40 precent slavic
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Code:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA,0.090299667,0.041128917,-0.011282167,-0.03060425,-0.022824583,-0.01203875,0.0052875,-0.00080766667,-0.014913167,-0.000060666667,-0.0027334167,0.0033345,-0.0041253333,-0.00099775,-0.00150425,-0.0033588333,-0.00099958333,0.00097133333,0.0014245833,-0.0011775833,-0.0042528333,0.00045341667,0.00010266667,-0.003404,-0.00099791667Code:Target: TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA Distance: 0.0116% / 0.01159308 | R2P 55.7 Turkmen 44.3 Greek_Dodecanese_Rhodes
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My Central Asia model:
Target: TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA
Distance: 1.2934% / 0.01293423
41.0 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
23.0 KAZ_Aktogai_MLBA
12.0 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
11.8 MNG_Ulaanzuukh_Slab_Grave
7.6 Levant_Megiddo_MLBA
2.4 CHN_Yellow_River_LN
1.8 RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
0.4 KEN_Nyarindi_3500BP
This sample is only 16% East Eurasian/Mongoloid.
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IMO this map speaks volumes about the fact that merely stating something in a peer-reviewed paper is not sufficient for it to be true or accurate.Came across this map
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Best 2-way models
Best 3-way modelsCode:Target: TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA Distance: 0.0153% / 0.01531842 61.7 TUR_E_Van_Urartian:I19612__BC_800 38.3 KAZ_Tasmola_IA:AKB001__BC_727 Target: TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA Distance: 0.0156% / 0.01562409 60.2 TUR_E_Van_Urartian:I19612__BC_800 39.8 CHN_Junmachanyilian_IA1:C1650__BC_470 Target: TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA Distance: 0.0165% / 0.01650487 60.3 TUR_E_Van_Urartian:I19612__BC_800 39.7 Saka_Kazakh_steppe:DA11__BC_628
Samples scoredCode:Target: TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA Distance: 0.0107% / 0.01071680 | R3P 38.0 ARM_Keti_Anc:I17308__BC_306 31.6 KAZ_Mayemer_IA:MMR001__BC_550 30.4 TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Degirmendere_Anc:I20230__BC_615 Target: TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA Distance: 0.0118% / 0.01182312 | R3P 46.6 ARM_Karmir_Blur_Anc:I16119__BC_336 29.9 KAZ_Mayemer_IA:MMR001__BC_550 23.5 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I20183__BC_800 Target: TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA Distance: 0.0120% / 0.01197058 | R3P 37.8 TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Degirmendere_Anc:I20229__BC_615 33.3 ARM_Noratus_EIA:I18468__BC_1100 28.9 KAZ_Korgantas_IA_o1:BDY001__BC_275
Code:ARM_Karmir_Blur_Anc:I16119__BC_336,0.095611,0.125926,-0.05506,-0.046835,-0.038776,-0.01004,0.009165,-0.007846,-0.029451,-0.011116,0.004709,0.004946,-0.010109,0.00812,0.005429,-0.003315,-0.011083,-0.000127,-0.000628,-0.01063,-0.002371,0.002844,0,-0.006145,-0.007903 ARM_Keti_Anc:I17308__BC_306,0.103579,0.132019,-0.042992,-0.049742,-0.029544,-0.010598,0.00564,-0.005307,-0.020043,-0.012028,0,-0.007943,0.001041,0.0139,-0.002036,-0.01538,-0.019949,-0.001774,0.004902,-0.003126,0,0.001978,-0.003081,-0.004579,-0.000359 ARM_Noratus_EIA:I18468__BC_1100,0.102441,0.121864,-0.039221,-0.01615,-0.028313,0.00251,0.014336,-0.000692,-0.041109,-0.031709,0.003735,0.007343,-0.003717,-0.009496,0.002714,0.005038,0.010431,-0.00038,-0.002514,-0.007504,0.010482,0.008656,-0.001849,-0.002651,-0.000838 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I20183__BC_800,0.120652,0.160454,0.010559,-0.041344,0.030775,-0.02259,0.00282,-0.003,0.017794,0.047017,0.003085,0.013488,-0.008771,-0.004954,-0.029587,0.005171,0.024903,0.003674,0.008673,-0.001,-0.004866,-0.00371,0.000739,0.005784,-0.011017 CHN_Junmachanyilian_IA1:C1650__BC_470,0.081953,-0.12491,0.058454,0.038114,-0.03416,0.004183,-0.000235,0.005077,-0.015135,-0.020957,-0.020786,0.002098,-0.003568,-0.01734,0.016015,0.004375,-0.008866,0.005954,0.006159,0.007379,-0.021462,0.001855,-0.002958,0.010604,0.005269 KAZ_Korgantas_IA_o1:BDY001__BC_275,0.063741,-0.203106,0.055437,0.012274,-0.057857,-0.013108,0.00893,0.014538,-0.000818,-0.003098,-0.015102,-0.002698,0.003865,-0.01101,0.00855,-0.00358,-0.01343,0.000633,0.001006,0.007629,-0.021213,0.00507,-0.006779,-0.004579,-0.001078 KAZ_Mayemer_IA:MMR001__BC_550,0.07057,-0.187873,0.032055,0.00646,-0.045547,-0.004183,0.0047,0.012692,-0.010635,-0.011481,-0.020948,-0.002248,0.000892,-0.006331,0.007329,-0.003182,-0.012517,-0.002914,0.000251,0.001251,-0.013476,0.000866,0.00456,-0.003374,-0.008622 KAZ_Tasmola_IA:AKB001__BC_727,0.085367,-0.137096,0.064488,0.043605,-0.032006,0.00502,0.002115,0.002308,-0.010022,-0.019135,-0.016401,-0.003147,0.000297,-0.017203,0.015472,0.003182,-0.000913,-0.003294,-0.005154,0.001626,-0.020838,0.005193,-0.007888,-0.001205,-0.006945 Saka_Kazakh_steppe:DA11__BC_628,0.085367,-0.122879,0.052797,0.046512,-0.032621,0.006972,0.002585,0.005077,-0.010022,-0.021868,-0.019811,-0.000899,0.00223,-0.023533,0.017236,0.007027,0.002608,-0.004434,0.014078,0.009379,-0.015722,0.005441,0.001602,0.002048,0.000239 TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Degirmendere_Anc:I20229__BC_615,0.111547,0.157407,-0.029793,-0.069445,0.000615,-0.02008,-0.000705,-0.013153,-0.006954,0.037358,-0.000487,0.008692,-0.016353,0.007019,-0.023344,-0.005967,0.011604,0.007855,0.002765,-0.003502,-0.007736,0.000618,0.005053,-0.001566,-0.000239 TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Degirmendere_Anc:I20230__BC_615,0.103579,0.158423,-0.027907,-0.062985,0.011387,-0.024263,0.003055,-0.008307,-0.010022,0.034443,0.002598,0.014237,-0.017245,-0.007569,-0.020087,0.004906,0.032596,-0.00228,0.005531,-0.001376,-0.003993,0.001855,-0.00037,-0.000723,0.00491 TUR_E_Van_Urartian:I19612__BC_800,0.099026,0.150298,-0.057699,-0.078812,-0.031083,-0.020917,0.003995,-0.003923,-0.009613,0.015672,0.006983,0.002248,-0.000446,0.00055,-0.013843,-0.011668,-0.006258,0.002914,0.001006,-0.009755,0.006364,0.001113,0.003081,-0.006145,0.00012
It's ancestry that was absorbed over a 1000 years process and not immediately, good part of it is also female mediated and also from a South-Slavic proxy from mingling with them for 1000 years at least.
Albanian territories were occupied by the Bulgarians and then by Serbs and they were settled by them. Anatolians got absorbed into the natives during Roman period.
So Albanians no Thracian and other Balkan people no IA Illyrian ? This model is completely nonsense. Thracian and IA/BA Greece somewhat plot close to IA Anatolia if you are unaware
Why on earth would someone only use IA/BA Albania to model Albanians with or only use IA/BA Greece to model Greeks with , jesus fucking christ , made by these low iq digit retarded serbs
Target: Albanian
Distance: 0.7593% / 0.00759303
63.2 BalkanIA
25.0 East_Europe
11.8 Anatolia_Roman
^ This is what I get for myself when using Thracian IA / Macedonia IA +BA /IA Albania + Slavic + Anatolian , not sure how accurate my model is but certainly seems better than that one . I used all individual samples and not averages btw. We don't have samples from IA / Roman Dardania except for that one in Nish or IA Albania. Maybe Roman samples are the best to use + Slavic .
Source:
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BalkanIA:Macedonia_IA:I8112,0.12862,0.142174,0.026021,-0.011951,0.034468,-0.011992,-0.00188,0.001154,0.003272,0.023691,0.001624,0.008093,-0.020069,-0.01913,-0.006243,0.009679,0.016168,0.005828,0.003394,-0.007504,0.001123,-0.004204,-0.001109,0.003012,-0.008861 Anatolia_Roman:SRB_ViminaciumPecine:I15529__AD_150__Cov_33.46%,0.097888,0.156392,-0.048271,-0.058786,-0.004308,-0.022311,0.011281,-0.000231,-0.01493,0.020046,0.006171,0.008992,-0.025272,0.001239,-0.013708,-0.019093,-0.006389,0.001014,0.001131,-0.01063,-0.004991,0.005193,0.006655,0.002651,-0.005868 Anatolia_Roman:SRB_ViminaciumPecine:I15532__AD_350__Cov_12.58%,0.106994,0.144205,-0.033564,-0.064923,-0.001539,-0.022311,0.0094,-0.003461,0.013294,0.021504,0.022572,0.002548,-0.009217,0.014863,-0.012622,-0.013259,0.013299,-0.012035,0.01081,-0.004252,0.002121,-0.009521,0.01023,-0.003133,-0.003473 East_Europe::SRB_ViminaciumGrobalja:I32305__AD_100__Cov_80.50%,0.130897,0.11577,0.075047,0.071706,0.033852,0.032909,0.0094,0.011076,0.008999,-0.017312,0.000325,-3.00E-04,0.015015,0.015827,-0.010586,0.006762,0.000652,0.001394,-0.002388,0.012881,-0.000374,0.002226,0.012818,-0.007591,0.003712 East_Europe:AUT_EMA:I15232__AD_838__Cov_68.37%,0.129758,0.120848,0.072784,0.05814,0.040623,0.026774,0.002115,0.014999,-0.006545,-0.011845,0.001137,-0.006444,0.01115,0.021882,-0.015744,0.005569,0.004303,0.003421,-0.003142,0.01113,-0.006613,-0.005688,0.00456,-0.000723,0.002155 East_Europe:HRV_Gornji:I35014__AD_1100__Cov_27.02%,0.133173,0.137096,0.05506,0.058463,0.048009,0.017012,0.0047,0.020076,0.000818,-0.021868,-0.006008,-0.003447,0.015312,0.01913,-0.022258,-0.009944,-0.005737,0.011782,-0.000377,-0.003877,0.003993,-0.000989,0.008504,-0.006386,-0.002754 East_Europe:SVK_EMA:I4803__AD_820__Cov_67.13%,0.127482,0.141159,0.067505,0.055879,0.041238,0.019243,0.005875,0.01223,0.001023,-0.009476,-0.004222,-0.007194,0.011298,0.016377,-0.009093,0.005569,0.01017,-0.004814,0.002891,0.005253,-0.009608,-0.001731,0.001972,-0.010845,0.001078 East_Europe:SVK_EMA:I12991__AD_817__Cov_63.63%,0.138864,0.122879,0.07203,0.069445,0.045855,0.020917,0.009165,0.018461,-0.000614,-0.024602,-0.005196,-0.012289,0.026313,0.01913,-0.019001,0.015911,0.026077,-0.003547,0,0.010755,-0.001497,-0.002226,0.006286,-0.007953,0.000239 East_Europe:SVK_EMA:I13458__AD_843__Cov_70.89%,0.118376,0.114755,0.059208,0.04845,0.028313,0.011713,0.003525,0.015461,-0.00409,-0.023508,0.00341,-0.007943,0.017393,0.017616,-0.012622,0.004243,0.009257,0.00038,0.001508,-0.007253,-0.001622,-0.003462,0.002711,-0.003856,-0.005269 East_Europe:HRV_Brekinjova:I26748__AD_838__Cov_73.30%,0.121791,0.133034,0.067127,0.052649,0.040315,0.025379,0.00517,0.013846,0.001432,-0.02442,0.003085,-0.01094,0.011744,0.024084,-0.005565,-0.017634,-0.010691,-0.006714,0.007165,0.003252,-0.008235,-0.005193,0.012941,-0.002771,0.006107 East_Europe:Czech_Medieval:I20515,0.124067,0.132019,0.06675,0.08075,0.046778,0.031794,0.009165,0.010846,0.002863,-0.031162,-0.003735,-0.015286,0.019177,0.018029,-0.017372,-0.00716,0.004303,0.000633,-0.006913,0.004752,-0.010232,0.002226,0.005793,-0.003012,0.002275 East_Europe:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
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