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Thread: Baltic states have significant Slavic admixture

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    Not even a smidgen of Baltic or Slavic
    Target: JerryS_scaled
    Distance: 2.8802% / 0.02880173
    100.0 Germanic

    A southern reference would give me a much better distance though.

    I probably did it wrong but I get some slavic now.

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    Distance: 1.5323% / 0.01532324
    46.2 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
    16.4 Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval: DRU012.A_noUDG
    14.0 Italian:South_Italian:Mainland
    8.6 Germanic:Germany_Dunum_Saxon_Medieval: DUN006.A_noUDG
    6.4 Germanic:Germany_Anderten_Saxon_Medieval:ADN011_no UDG
    4.8 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
    3.4 Slavic:Czech_Medieval:I20515
    0.2 Germanic:Germany_Schortens_Saxon_EMedieval:SRS004. A_noUDG
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vessna View Post
    How do you know they were a nobility? I looked it up, it is a noble last name with own coats of arms even, but I never thought I was related. I just knew they were from Panevezys with Polish names and quite shady family story lol
    Should I claim my titles? Countess Vessna would sound nice lmao
    As a rule, in northern Lithuania there was a division into the Polish noble court and the Lithuanian peasantry. On the former Teutonic border, there was also a group of small provincial nobility, most of them descendants of military settlers from Masovia. You must take into account that the title of nobility is inherited only in the main male line. Moreover, count titles, as foreign, were not recognized in Poland (with few exceptions). You need to find out in detail the genealogical sources of your family. The return of property in Lithuania is rather doubtful afaik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cass View Post
    As a rule, in northern Lithuania there was a division into the Polish noble court and the Lithuanian peasantry. On the former Teutonic border, there was also a group of small provincial nobility, most of them descendants of military settlers from Masovia. You must take into account that the title of nobility is inherited only in the main male line. Moreover, count titles, as foreign, were not recognized in Poland (with few exceptions). You need to find out in detail the genealogical sources of your family. The return of property in Lithuania is rather doubtful afaik.
    Thank you for this information. I will have to ask my Lithuanian girlfriend to help me send a request to the archives to get church records. There is a preserved direct male line through my fathers cousin who’s a retired colonel. Interestingly that you’ve mentioned military, because my grandmothers family was very adamant about all males to enter a military profession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vessna View Post
    Thank you for this information. I will have to ask my Lithuanian girlfriend to help me send a request to the archives to get church records. There is a preserved direct male line through my fathers cousin who’s a retired colonel. Interestingly that you’ve mentioned military, because my grandmothers family was very adamant about all males to enter a military profession.

    You can check online the parish records from Panevėžys on the website of the State Archives of Lithuania. I'm assuming they didn't live in the city itself, so you need to find the appropriate parish on this page (genitive form like Panevėžys > Panevėžio) and add the word RKB (Roman Catholic church). Note that first the books are kept in Latin, then in Polish, and since the November Uprising of 1831 in Russian

    https://www.epaveldas.lt/search?term...Detailed=false


    parish books indexed:
    https://www.metrikai.lt/index.php
    https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/
    Last edited by cass; 12-12-2023 at 04:52 PM.

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    Which study are these Anderten, Dunum, Drantum etc. Saxon samples from?

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