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[HectorOfTroy]

That's because corporate media is beholden to corporate interests. The problem, as always, is crony capitalism.

Honestly most ideal society we can get is a strongly religious (CHRISTIAN) country (definitley not forced, but very highly promoted) that is libertarian and democractic. Also the states solution is good imo, if someone don't like it, move to another region of the country, that way we can avoid mob rule.

[CosmoLady]

I wouldn't call Hungary a democracy. What we do need, though, is to break up or nationalise those banks and corporations that now influence and corrupt politics. So, if there is anything we can learn from the former pseudo- democracies, is to enshrine the above mentioned system into the constitution and have a national alliance of block parties where all regular forms of democracy are possible, but within the framework of socialism and patriottism: in other words, it becomes the law of the land that the etnicity and culture are untouchable, so by extension, mass immigration and the attacks on the culture, as well as enforced Americanisation are against the constitution and will be treated as attack on the nation and its socialist and democratic order.

This sounds more authoritarian than Hungary, because Orban did not re-nationalise anything (I think).
Hungary still has free elections and free media as well as state media like most other countries.
I'm not sure what is undemocratic

This sounds more like Belarus but with elections, as long as national sovereignty is totally protected. I would not mind.

[Your Old Comrade]

Honestly most ideal society we can get is a strongly religious (CHRISTIAN) country (definitley not forced, but very highly promoted) that is libertarian and democractic. Also the states solution is good imo, if someone don't like it, move to another region of the country, that way we can avoid mob rule.

Libertarianism is extreme capitalism and thus un-Christian. It's the worship of mammon and will lead us back onto the currently existing path.

[Your Old Comrade]

This sounds more authoritarian than Hungary, because Orban did not re-nationalise anything (I think).
Hungary still has free elections and free media as well as state media like most other countries.
I'm not sure what is undemocratic

This sounds more like Belarus but with elections, as long as national sovereignty is totally protected. I would not mind.

I think that only the so-called commanding heights of the economy (look them up), the multinationals and banks should be nationalised. It's not communism. It's more like 1930s to 1980s Scandinavia, or Clement Attlee's Britain. And Orban merely gave companies to his friends and family btw. Just like Putin did in Russia, Lukashenko in Belarus etc. And like the West when they privatised state owned firms.

[CosmoLady]

I think that only the so-called commanding heights of the economy (look them up), the multinationals and banks should be nationalised. It's not communism. It's more like 1930s to 1980s Scandinavia, or Clement Attlee's Britain.

Yes that was socialism not communism. There was a reason for it probably. Like Belarus is also socialist not communist.
Belarus resisted privatisation unlike Russia and Ukraine, and continues with a mixed economy.

But today, European countries are severely indebted and unable to nationalise anything without CONFISCATION,
which is certainly undemocratic.
Even if the people vote for it,
this would be an attack on the right of private property as guaranteed by any liberal democracy.

[CosmoLady]

The better thing is to discourage multinationals by law and encourage 100% domestic business,
and to have a national bank that gives interest-free loans in the national economic interest.
This would out-compete any other bank.

These policies will infuriate the transnational elite, the EU, and the US, who will start regime change operations.

Only a hardened regime can protect the people and the national sovereignty and resist international pressure.
Ironically only a hardened regime can protect democracy?

Hungary has a mild nationalist government, because pressure and subversion against Hungary have been mild.

With more international pressure and subversion, a nationalist regime will harden further into Russia or Belarus.

[Your Old Comrade]

Yes that was socialism not communism. There was a reason for it probably. Like Belarus is also socialist not communist.
Belarus resisted privatisation unlike Russia and Ukraine, and continues with a mixed economy.

But today, European countries are severely indebted and unable to nationalise anything without CONFISCATION,
which is certainly undemocratic.
Even if the people vote for it,
this would be an attack on the right of private property as guaranteed by any liberal democracy.

It is stolen public property, so it isn't private. Nobody had asked the people whether their property could be handed over for a few pennies to foreign corporations by politicians that acted without the public's consent that then disappeared abroad. Confiscate away. We are merely then taking back what is ours.

As for national debts ? You need to do some more looking up. We didn't have much of a national debt under social democracy and it exploded only when the capitalist Right took power and privatised everything.



The current national debt is at 47.6%. That's low.

[CosmoLady]

It is stolen public property, so it isn't private. Nobody had asked the people whether their property could be handed over for a few pennies to foreign corporations by politicians that acted without the public's consent that then disappeared abroad. Confiscate away. We are merely taking back what is ours.

OK then, as you wish, but then get ready for extreme pressure, sanctions, regime change operations, etc.
Probably all of the antifas/nato stay-behinds will be activated.
The state will have to become much more authoritarian to survive, much worse than Hungary, more like Russia.

You cannot confiscate the Western elite mafia's assets without triggering some severe reprisals,
so you have to be ready to fight back.
You will need allies.
Russia and China maybe?

[Your Old Comrade]

OK then, as you wish, but then get ready for extreme pressure, sanctions, regime change operations, etc.
Probably all of the antifas/nato stay-behinds will be activated.
The state will have to become much more authoritarian to survive, much worse than Hungary, more like Russia.

You cannot confiscate the Western elite mafia's assets without triggering some severe reprisals, so you have to be ready to fight back.
You will need allies.
Russia and China maybe?

Lol. No. Besides: the money is there to buy it all up tomorrow: the railways, gas companies, telecommunication, electricity, the steel works etc. Healthcare too should be taken. DSM. They already hold or held some banks after 2008, so.

[CosmoLady]

Lol. No. Besides: the money is there to buy it all up tomorrow: the railways, gas companies, telecommunication, electricity, the steel works etc. Healthcare too should be taken. DSM. They already hold or held some banks after 2008, so.

You do not already have a large budget deficit and national debt?

What programs would you like to cut to re-nationalise industry? How high do you want to raise the taxes?
Migrants already consume 17 billion more in services than they pay in taxes,
the Dutch state has spent 400 billion on migrants over the past 25 years.

Even if you accomplish this, you will be angering some very powerful people and entities, who will fight back, it will be very nasty.

The state will have to become very authoritarian to survive and to protect the will of the people.

Without gas and electricity and food and allies (neighbours? ex-communist countries? BRICS?),
a parallel financial system (Interbank/Chinese SWIFT?),
and a strong temporary? currency with real value (Petro-yuan?),
the fight is already over before it begins,
the people will be miserable and will end the nationalist project.