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    Default Hungary's Orbán blackmailed the EU - and it worked.


    In this video, we delve into the escalating tensions between Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban and the European Union, a saga marked by deepening rifts and strategic maneuvers. At the heart of this conflict are two critical decisions regarding Ukraine: the initiation of EU accession talks and a substantial €50 billion support package. Amidst these pivotal developments, Hungary, under Orban's leadership, has adopted a tough stance, persistently threatening to wield its veto power to obstruct these initiatives. Our exploration will unravel the complex events of the past month, providing a comprehensive understanding of the current state of affairs in this ongoing geopolitical drama.


    Sources:
    Source 1: Politico, Michel to cut China trip short https://www.politico.eu/article/counc...

    Source 2: France24, Macron hosts Hungary’s Orban in bid to break Ukraine deadlock
    https://www.france24.com/en/live-news...

    Source 3: Aljeera, EU Executive holds upt
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/1...

    Source 4: Politico, Hungary Viktor Orban threatens to blow up EU Ukraine Policy
    https://www.politico.eu/article/hunga...

    Source 5: Euronews, Brussels releases 10 billion in frozen EU funds https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/20...


    Wake up and smell the coffee.

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    I wonder what document/proof Putin has on this retard to make him do these stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiel View Post
    I wonder what document/proof Putin has on this retard to make him do these stuff
    Why do you call Mr. Orban that?
    He is a great politician.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiel View Post
    I wonder what document/proof Putin has on this retard to make him do these stuff
    Brussels wants to influence the hungarian elections with sanctions. They think a poorer Hungary will makes hungarians hostile towards Orbán. They also gives tons of money for oppositionist parties. This is totally undemocratic. Hungary has every right to get the EU money. Its not free money, Hungary sacrificed its complete agriculture and animal husbandry, just like the domestic industry was replaced by western companies because of EU joining.
    Putin has nothing to do with this step to blackmail Brussels.

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    Hungary being Hungary, typical

    Let me add Bulgaria got blackmailed recently as well demanding they won't vote for joining Bulgaria to Schengen if they won't delete the tax for trasit of Russian gas, it is so important for Hungarian economy that Bulgaria won't tax Russian gas


    Such moves will be made to create view of Fidesz having much control and power, which will be helpful for the elections

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Brussels wants to influence the hungarian elections with sanctions. They think a poorer Hungary will makes hungarians hostile towards Orbán. They also gives tons of money for oppositionist parties. This is totally undemocratic. Hungary has every right to get the EU money. Its not free money, Hungary sacrificed its complete agriculture and animal husbandry, just like the domestic industry was replaced by western companies because of EU joining.
    Putin has nothing to do with this step to blackmail Brussels.
    Sure, sure, but perhaps the EU just doesnt like how a big portion of the EU money ends up in the Orban family through oligarchs and his family. Im so amazed how people think this guy is some alt right savior of Europe while hes just a clever populist whos only goal is to stay in power forever basically. Maybe you dont really see it, or dont care but Hungary is slowly becoming an autocracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiel View Post
    Sure, sure, but perhaps the EU just doesnt like how a big portion of the EU money ends up in the Orban family through oligarchs and his family. Im so amazed how people think this guy is some alt right savior of Europe while hes just a clever populist whos only goal is to stay in power forever basically. Maybe you dont really see it, or dont care but Hungary is slowly becoming an autocracy.
    This is how the hungarian system always worked. Or do you think before Orbán clan, the leftis oligarchs did not steal the EU money? Of course they did as well, some of them: Sándor Demján, László Bige, Zoltán Varga, or the Gyurcsány clan as the most famous.

    Orbán wants to stay in power as long as possible, but every single politician do that. This is the essence of politics, to get the power and to keep it. Do you think Macron does not want to stay in power forever? He would do that, but Macron has much less support than Orbán. Its not Orbán's fault that millions of hungarians vote for him instead of these incompetent oppositionist politicians who dont have any message or ideology for hungarians except the brainless Orbán hate and serve Brussels elite like slaves.

    The peoples dont forget the previous leftist Gyurcsány goverment either, who created a much more authoritarian Hungary including police terror state, political trials after 2006 like in the communism, martial law in Budapest, thousands of wounded and crippled citizens etc, the hungarian media was more limited the conservatives had only one TV channel called Hir Tv, the nationalists have been discriminated from the state TV. This is Orbán's alternative today.

    What things you cant do now in Hungary? How does Orbán limits you?

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    This is the leftist terror in Hungary before Orbán:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiel View Post
    Sure, sure, but perhaps the EU just doesnt like how a big portion of the EU money ends up in the Orban family through oligarchs and his family. Im so amazed how people think this guy is some alt right savior of Europe while hes just a clever populist whos only goal is to stay in power forever basically. Maybe you dont really see it, or dont care but Hungary is slowly becoming an autocracy.
    Orban is not a greedy oligarch. He actually makes decisions that will benefit his country and people. I salute Hungary and Orban for their political stance.
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    In 2006, my sister participated the bloody siege of national TV (M1) and she said the police used live ammunition against civilians. It was the "democratic" leftist Hungary, interesting Brussels had no any problem with shooting the peoples if a leftist government does it. But according to them Orbán is a dictator satan just because he banned the lmbtq propaganda from the schools. Its undemocratic, shooting civilians is democratic.... lol

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