Hungary's Orbán blackmailed the EU - and it worked.

[Ugo]

The Eastern territories and its populace would be a burden for Poland. Existence of semi-independent-dependent Ukraine is more suitable for them, they may suck off the needed specialists and labor force from there without social obligations towards millions of Ukrainians including useless ones like kids and old people. Now lots of disabled and amputees of the war will add to this category. All they need is total Ukrainian dependence, usage of its soil, seaports, exact part of human resource, not more than that.

gas transit? if there is a common border between Poland and Russia? В пизду...я сказал что если будет общая граница между россией и польшей. Перевести не могу это...

[Victor]

gas transit? if there is a common border between Poland and Russia?

Yes, Belorussia/Poland border.

[Finnish Swede]

Hungary will never give up to get back some old territory. The is the most sensitive g-spot of the hungarian nation. Before this ukrainian crisis the hungarian society was very anti-russian, but after the ukrainians started to opress the hungarian minority and some russian politician have started to talking about the hungarian rights to Subcarpathia, this anti-russian feeling is completely changed. Moscow was smart, this is the way how to talk with hungarians. Brussels does not understand it, although i doubt that Russia will give any ukrainian territory for Hungary.

Do you (Hungarians) simply believe the talks, or should you wait for real actions? On the other hand ... it is even pretty easy to give something/ a little to one if take away something from 20s. Even Ceasar knew that ... divide and conquer.

[Blondie]

Do you (Hungarians) simply believe the talks, or should you wait for real actions? On the other hand ... it is even pretty easy to give something/ a little to one if take away something from 20s. Even Ceasar knew that ... divide and conquer.

Hungrians do understand how does geopolitics works unlike you finns.

[Finnish Swede]

Hungary is country with pronounced national pride. Wounds from Trianon will probably never heal and due to that there is permanent distrust of any big powers.

Keep in mind no country suffered such territorial and demographic losos as consequence of lost world wars, not even Germany.

Average Hungarian considers himself to be part of west, but he couldn't give a shit if France becomes Nigeria, since such countries are seen as executioners of once quite relevant Kingdom of Hungary.

Thanks. Perhaps I will read about WW I bit more some day (what comes to Central Europe). It has been years when I did that. Never the less; Hungarians are not the only nation in Europe which has been threated very unfairly by others.

Yes, I have learned that from Blondie (Hungarians cares shit about other Europeans). Maybe Europeans should care shit about Hungarians as well. Still she has not attacked against France here (or those countries which really benefitted: Romania, Czechoslovak Republic, Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, Slovenes or First Austrian Republic). She has attacked ''West'' over all.

[Victor]

Hungrians do understand how does geopolitics works unlike you finns.

I wonder, do these Westerners who constantly criticize own politicians for being impotent and woke, for infesting their lands with immigrants of color trust in the same time that same politicians will defeat "allmighty Putin" who in their imagination easily manipulates foreign elections, owns presidents of whole independent states? That's some kind of schizophrenia. These people are on some seesaw, one day Russia and Putin are doomed and can't do shit, other day by their own descriptions Putin turns out to be a master of whole World.

[Finnish Swede]

Hungrians do understand how does geopolitics works unlike you finns.

Do not be so sure. In the end, time will show us that.

Having the longest common border with Russians in Europe Finns position is more challenger than Hungarians. On the other hand, if something really happens in Europe ... the northern side of Baltic sea is not strategically the most important place. Starting from population sizes in Europe. Yup ... you will get your part.

[Blondie]

Do not be so sure. In the end, time will show us that.

Exactly, and africans, arabs have much higher birth rate than finns, swedes. Its just question of time

[Finnish Swede]

I wonder, do these Westerners who constantly criticize own politicians for being impotent and woke, for infesting their lands with immigrants of color trust in the same time that same politicians will defeat "allmighty Putin" who in their imagination easily manipulates foreign elections, owns presidents of whole independent states? That's some kind of schizophrenia. These people are on some seesaw, one day Russia and Putin are doomed and can't do shit, other day by their own descriptions Putin turns out to be a master of whole World.

Do not forget Churchill was globalist or that Franklin D. Roosevelt is pretty hatered president by white nationalists etc. groups in the USA. And still they won the war. UPS... you did it ... just alone.

Different history writings, you see ....

[Universe]

Exactly, and africans, arabs have much higher birth rate than finns, swedes. Its just question of time

What about Gypsies in Hungary?