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Thread: Hungary's Orbán blackmailed the EU - and it worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    Swedes were happy that they became a little bit out of focus as a hanging penis on the map on the coins by the EU extension.

    But coming back to seriosity: Don't you think that at least PIGS already harboured an economic time bomb?

    I much disliked the old EU as it had the tendency already then to abolish the nations (in a first step and in a second step very long term weaken and dissolve the various ethnicities). This is the reason why I was happy that the EU drove itself ad absurdum by the expansion into shithole countries. I would be happy if the whole world overnight would join the EU. It would then likely collaps within a month (figuratively).
    I rather have something that works for us, then more chaos. We have seen enough chaos for the last 25 years.


    Wake up and smell the coffee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    I have said it before and I will say it again: the EEC worked because it was comprised out of Western functioning (at the time) democracies. Time to restore our own democracies, cut the EU back to size and eject all of the Eastern glut.
    I absolutely support this idea. Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, Romania etc has no place in the EU. I want an independent Hungary instead of EUSSR. I hope Germany will follow this way and will be outside of EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    I absolutely support this idea. Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, Romania etc has no place in the EU. I want an independent Hungary instead of EUSSR. I hope Germany will follow this way and will be outside of EU.
    The EU should just become the old EEC again. But with the political power to sustain the Euro. That's it. Much of the remaining powers go back to the member states. Hungary wouldn't be independent, though, as Orban takes his orders from Moscow and Beijing, like a good Quisling, but that would no longer be our problem.

    Funny how young people like you ignore the fact that their great-grandparents generation died to be free back in 1956, and you are supporting a new János Kádár, installed to serve Moscow once more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    The EU should just become the old EEC again. But with the political power to sustain the Euro. That's it. Much of the remaining powers go back to the member states. Hungary wouldn't be independent, though, as Orban takes his orders from Moscow and Beijing, like a good Quisling, but that would no longer be our problem.

    Funny how young people like you ignore the fact that their great-grandparents generation died to be free back in 1956, and you are supporting a new János Kádár, installed to serve Moscow once more.
    The only funny thing is you believe everything what you read in the EUSSR pravda

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    The only funny thing is you believe everything what you read in the EUSSR pravda
    And you believe everything that comes rolling out of Russia: a country that kept your country in bondage for almost 45 bloodsoaked years, that you are too young to remember.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    The only funny thing is you believe everything what you read in the EUSSR pravda
    Hungary seems more free and sovereign than any Western European country.

    And Hungary needs Russian gas and Russian uranium, and probably Russian loans for energy projects,
    which Western companies refuse to give because of the Green agenda.
    Also Chinese investment for manufacturing

    The irony, I have noticed around the world,
    is that Russia and China interfere in domestic affairs far less than the EU and US/NATO and WEF.
    Hungary is small and vulnerable and needs access to raw materials and capital, however possible,
    even if Hungary forms a regional alliance with other Central European and Balkan countries.

    I think that the pro-EU politicians are the quislings who lie to the people and sacrifice national autonomy.
    Yes I remember the brutality of the previous regime against normal people.
    This shocking behaviour by the pro-EU regime is what brought Orban back to power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    And you believe everything that comes rolling out of Russia: a country that kept your country in bondage for almost 45 bloodsoaked years, that you are too young to remember.
    I dont belive everything that comes out of Russia, this is just your fantasy. Im very proud that Hungary belonged to the communist block, this is the reason why Hungary is not such multicultural like Austria, we are much porer. Its a very good thing. And last but not least Russia paid compensation because of 56' and others. Should i hate every country that Hungary and Germany had conflict in the history? Grow up... Its very sad that you hate Russia more than your globalist woke elite that ruined Netherlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    I dont belive everything that comes out of Russia, this is just your fantasy. Im very proud that Hungary belonged to the communist block, this is the reason why Hungary is not such multicultural like Austria, we are much porer. Its a very good thing. And last but not least Russia paid compensation because of 56' and others. Should i hate every country that Hungary and Germany had conflict in the history? Grow up... Its very sad that you hate Russia more than your globalist woke elite that ruined Netherlands.
    I hate them both equally as much and you were born after the Russian occupation. They left a full decade before you were born.


    Wake up and smell the coffee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    I hate them both equally as much and you were born after the Russian occupation. They left a full decade before you were born.
    And? I have heard many story how was the life in the communism. In the 90' years the democratic Hungary was actually poorer than communist Hungary in the 80' years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    And? I have heard many story how was the life in the communism. In the 90' years the democratic Hungary was actually poorer than communist Hungary in the 80' years.
    That's because the communists had been loaning money for consumer products to keep the population at least a bit content. After the Russian tanks left, the debts had to be repaid and the charade crashed.


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