Sacha's IllustrativeDNA Results

[Queen_95]

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[sacha]

Since you're at it, can you also post Eurogenes K13 and Dodecad K12b? I used to be a huge GEDmatch fan but now it seems to have largely fallen out of use. Though what we have instead is a bunch of Turks and Brazilians creating "models" for Europeans

Sure my friend, it is no issue. I know the problem with GEDmatch is that it has not been updated in awhile, but I think it is at the very least a solid foundation, G25 can be quite nice but it is also finnicky.

Eurogenes K13

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Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 49.98
2 West_Asian 19.21
3 West_Med 17.62
4 Red_Sea 9.54
5 North_Atlantic 2.78
6 Siberian 0.53
7 Sub-Saharan 0.27
8 Amerindian 0.06
9 Northeast_African 0.01

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Christian 4.67
2 Samaritan 6.38
3 Lebanese_Druze 7.23
4 Cyprian 8.83
5 Lebanese_Muslim 10.78
6 Palestinian 12.01
7 Syrian 12.9
8 Jordanian 13.63
9 Tunisian_Jewish 14.08
10 Kurdish_Jewish 14.21

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.2% Lebanese_Christian + 3.8% Sardinian @ 4.29
2 90.9% Lebanese_Christian + 9.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.36
3 91.7% Lebanese_Christian + 8.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.42
4 84.9% Lebanese_Christian + 15.1% Cyprian @ 4.47
5 93.6% Lebanese_Christian + 6.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.53

Dodecad K12b

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# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 45.96
2 Southwest_Asian 21.9
3 Atlantic_Med 17.31
4 Gedrosia 8.25
5 Northwest_African 6.27
6 Siberian 0.31

# Population (source) Distance
1 Druze (HGDP) 6.64
2 Cypriots (Behar) 8.4
3 Lebanese (Behar) 8.57
4 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 12.29
5 Syrians (Behar) 12.37

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.3% Druze (HGDP) + 27.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.83
2 70.2% Druze (HGDP) + 29.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.54
3 91.1% Druze (HGDP) + 8.9% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 3.62
4 89.9% Druze (HGDP) + 10.1% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 3.92
5 93.2% Druze (HGDP) + 6.8% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 4.11

[Leto]

Sure my friend, it is no issue. I know the problem with GEDmatch is that it has not been updated in awhile, but I think it is at the very least a solid foundation, G25 can be quite nice but it is also finnicky.

Yes, I completely agree. The oracles are basically useless 'cause there were updated custom references.
Your father is very indigenous, look at that 50% East Med! He seems to have nearly zero Steppe ancestry.

[sacha]

Yes, I completely agree. The oracles are basically useless 'cause there were updated custom references.
Your father is very indigenous, look at that 50% East Med! He seems to have nearly zero Steppe ancestry.

Oh, that is me, not my father xd I am still waiting to download my father's raw DNA

[sacha]

Okay, finally my father's raw DNA is back! And now I have a mystery to deal with. I have uploaded it to Illustrative for the sake of G25 coordinates, but while I wait for that here are his GEDmatch calcs:

Eurogenes K13:

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#	Population	Percent
1 	East_Med 	47.53
2 	West_Asian 	19.1
3 	West_Med 	17.64
4 	Red_Sea 	11
5 	North_Atlantic 	2.72
6 	Siberian 	1.14
7 	Northeast_African 	0.73
8 	South_Asian 	0.15

Eurogenes K36:

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Arabian	9.84 Pct
Armenian	7.88 Pct
East_Balkan	0.2 Pct
East_Med	35.6 Pct   
Iberian	1.75 Pct
Italian	7.71 Pct
Near_Eastern	22.71 Pct
North_African	2.24 Pct
North_Caucasian	4.68 Pct
West_Caucasian	1.74 Pct
West_Med	5.64 Pct

Arranged against mine:


Interesting how his East_Med is much lower than mine on K36, it could be that mine is misinterpreted, he has a way higher North_Caucasian which probably gets grouped into my West_Caucasian, could be a similar thing. He is only ~4 higher than my Lebanese friend on K36 East_Med, who gets 49.96 on the K13 East Med component. My father seems to have much, much better fits than I do on the K13 Oracle which I know are flawed but still, his closest dists:
1 Lebanese_Christian 3.31
2 Samaritan 4.15
3 Lebanese_Druze 7.39

My closest dists:
1 Lebanese_Christian 4.67
2 Samaritan 6.38
3 Lebanese_Druze 7.23

So either my data is poor (I have checked it with the GEDmatch tool and the kit is fine, but it could be just 23andMe raw data quality), I am misinterpreted, or my mom is weird, honestly it is probably all of the above. She does have a weird mtDNA, but I don't think that is conclusive of anything. I tested my dad because he looks weird even for our area, and because I wanted my Y-DNA, but maybe I was looking at the wrong side of the family...

I got some simulated coords for my Dad while I wait for real ones, based on K36:

Sacha_Dad_K36-sim_scaled,0.088772,0.147535,-0.044948,-0.081214,-0.007641,-0.028312,-0.003055,-0.004024,0.005138,0.013429,0.007274,-0.004609,0.012026,0.002816,-0.010311,0.006471,-0.000186,0.000412,0.002530,-0.004088,-0.003208,0.001728,-0.001092,0.000837,0.000676
Sacha_Dad_K36-sim_unscaled,0.007799,0.014528,-0.011919,-0.025144,-0.002483,-0.010152,-0.0013,-0.001744,0.002512,0.007369,0.004479,-0.003075,0.00809,0.002046,-0.007597,0.00488,-0.000143,0.000325,0.002013,-0.003269,-0.002571,0.001397,-0.000886,0.000695,0.000565

But sims really neuter the results lol, my actual coords vs my sims vs his sims:

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[happycow]

Thank you for sharing! Your results are quite a bit different than mine

[sacha]

Got my dad’s G25, I will just keep posting in this thread because I don’t want to spam threads. Looks like Sacha fit disorder is hereditary

Sacha_Dad_scaled,0.091058,0.151314,-0.037712,-0.083657,-0.020927,-0.028726,0.00094,-0.003923,0.012885,0.023326,0.00747,-0.002847,0.01442,0.007982,-0.016015,-0.014187,-0.011083,0.008361,0.00264,-0.005253,-0.004866,0.000371,-0.003328,-0.004458,0.008263
Sacha_Dad_scaled,0.008,0.0149,-0.01,-0.0259,-0.0068,-0.0103,0.0004,-0.0017,0.0063,0.0128,0.0046,-0.0019,0.0097,0.0058,-0.0118,-0.0107,-0.0085,0.0066,0.0021,-0.0042,-0.0039,0.0003,-0.0027,-0.0037,0.0069

His illustrative results:

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He seems a little more typical at least, whenever I get to testing my mom I will finally be happy