Caucasian Iberians on G25: Ahiska Turks and eastern Georgians

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In Greco-Roman geography, Iberia was an exonym for the Georgian kingdom of Kartli, known after its core province, which during Classical Antiquity and the Early Middle Ages was a significant monarchy in the Caucasus, either as an independent state or as a dependent of larger empires, notably the Sassanid and Roman empires. Iberia, centered on present-day Eastern Georgia, was bordered by Colchis in the west, Caucasian Albania in the east and Armenia in the south.

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Meskhetian Turks are a subgroup of ethnic Turkish people formerly inhabiting the Meskheti region of Georgia, along the border with Turkey. The Turkish presence in Meskheti began with the Ottoman military expedition of 1578.

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Turkish_Ahiska,0.1079374,0.1276848,-0.052588,-0.0472861,-0.0336685,-0.0088097,0.0048516,-0.0064801,-0.0465016,-0.0117451,0.0011,0.0090144,-0.0154432,0.003042,-0.0001591,-0.0141246,0.0018883,-0.0022057,-0.0042621,0.006712,0.0041719,-0.0003002,-0.0009313,-0.0045873,-0.0018809
pre-Turkish,0.109451643,0.1357406,-0.056552029,-0.049068857,-0.034488557,-0.008291629,0.0068561,-0.005111914,-0.050148643,-0.013574357,0.001467643,0.010206971,-0.017177886,0.003082171,0.000455457,-0.016216343,0.002133014,-0.002663443,-0.005083643,0.0081568,0.004986229,-0.000624957,-0.00075,-0.0049253,-0.002061414
Turkish,0.0973377,0.0712942,-0.0248398,-0.0348068,-0.0279281,-0.0124362,-0.0091799,-0.0160574,-0.0209723,0.0010597,-0.0014735,0.0006664,-0.0033004,0.0027608,-0.004461,0.0005176,0.0001753,0.0009985,0.0014887,-0.0034016,-0.0015284,0.0019731,-0.0022004,-0.0022213,-0.0006173

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I made a new east Georgian average with the pre-Turkish base of Ahiska Turks and Georgians from Kartli and Kakheti.

East_Georgian_18,0.1074335,0.1324695,-0.0559133,-0.0465927,-0.0366804,-0.0080008,0.0063718,-0.0050115,-0.0504739,-0.0153678,0.0023205,0.0092221,-0.0162727,0.0033209,-0.0004213,-0.0130221,0.004608,-0.0026192,-0.0050465,0.0080269,0.0067157,0.0019625,-0.0003184,-0.0043128,-0.0007803
Colchian,0.11009464,0.13358239,-0.05754964,-0.04764413,-0.04022328,-0.00797907,0.01190018,-0.0057431,-0.06708308,-0.02336725,0.00043173,0.01381844,-0.02920175,0.00656561,0.00321475,-0.02657108,0.00943529,-0.00575406,-0.01091213,0.0187863,0.01312288,0.00303371,-0.00087708,-0.00926565,-0.00241103
Armenian,0.105749621,0.135908747,-0.053605135,-0.048194448,-0.032398589,-0.008904035,0.002259004,-0.002913213,-0.035082699,-0.007885934,0.004315525,0.004767131,-0.003479377,-4.09455E-05,-0.003931295,0.000471115,-0.000346127,0.000500572,0.000800166,-0.002747956,0.000399953,0.000850621,0.000255616,0.000622897,0.000933613
Dusadh,0.0417353,-0.0930903,-0.1678183,0.121449,-0.0694487,0.0670267,-0.0031333,0.0118457,0.049904,0.034382,-0.005088,-0.000849,-0.0026757,-4.6e-05,-0.0088673,-0.0039333,0.0097353,0.0002537,-0.0013407,0.004377,-0.001664,0.0010303,0.0009447,0.001446,-0.0037523
Surui,0.0578222,-0.3174546,0.1171336,0.10672,-0.1138058,-0.015395,-0.3258188,-0.3916914,-0.0175482,-0.020775,0.0020784,-0.0046758,0.0023192,0.0358646,-0.0134908,0.0005834,0.0109002,-0.0012416,0.0002514,0.0012756,-0.0035436,0.012662,-0.0067784,-0.0074466,-0.009149

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East Georgian Y-lines (n=203)

Spoiler!

J-CTS6804 x16
J-Y12378 x12
J-Y11200 x5
J-Y9268 x3
J-Z534 x2
J-M205 x2
J-Z7671
J-Z6064
J-M92
J-L26
J-FGC16096
J-Z387
J-Y4349
J-Z7706
J-Z6267
J-Y13534
J-Y13341
J-M67
J-M102

J-Z1842 x3
J-P58 x3
J-Z1884 x2

R-Z2103 x31
R-V1636
R-PH155
R-M478
R-L23

G-PH1780 x32
G-Z6653 x26
G-M377
G-Z6764
G-Y24446
G-Z6284
G-Y12277
G-PF3147
G-M406
G1-CTS11562
G1-BY1124
G-M342
G-PF3147
G-FGC34725

I-Y16419 x11

R-Z93 x10

T-M70 x2
T-L208
T-L162
T-Y11151

L-Y16187
L-M27
L-Y6266
L-M349

E-M35 x3
E-CTS693 x2
E-V13
E-M84

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Georgian_Meskheti_2,0.104148,0.137604,-0.058265,-0.0541025,-0.034622,-0.011016,0.011163,-0.004846,-0.052665,-0.01549,0.0017865,0.008692,-0.0151635,0.00406,-0.002986,-0.0086185,0.013299,-0.0025335,-0.0002515,0.00544,0.005428,0.000742,-0.001664,-0.0076515,-0.0005985
Georgian,0.1116603,0.1359794,-0.0575864,-0.0498066,-0.0404382,-0.0070001,0.0114919,-0.0064612,-0.0634843,-0.0210664,0.0010879,0.0120343,-0.0262684,0.0034544,0.0035152,-0.0212276,0.012947,-0.0061825,-0.0095279,0.0174584,0.012266,0.0020156,-0.0002588,-0.0106037,-0.0025386
Armenian,0.1013981,0.1365234,-0.0581346,-0.0533738,-0.0292148,-0.0141819,0.0060501,-0.0045234,-0.0342935,-0.0041828,0.0030887,0.0034941,-0.0066624,0.002351,-0.0071314,0.0030842,0.011263,0.0007405,0.0039253,-0.0024648,0.0019606,0.000459,-0.001946,-0.0077475,0.0018214
Noise,-1.084070855,0.812551507,-0.260110495,-1.307740275,0.067423591,-0.223090884,1.204771006,0.317657676,-1.936938945,-1.44532458,-0.148811744,0.471664321,0.634484584,0.581552591,-0.590758073,0.217528232,0.609105047,0.091028966,1.272098583,-1.020903111,-0.835536801,-0.246412758,-0.281902295,0.752874457,-0.120308622

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Eastern Georgians from Azerbaijan, the Ingiloys, are indigenous to Saingilo, a cultural and historical region of Georgia located in the northwest of present-day Azerbaijan. They are Sunni Muslims.

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Turkish_Ahiska,0.1079374,0.1276848,-0.052588,-0.0472861,-0.0336685,-0.0088097,0.0048516,-0.0064801,-0.0465016,-0.0117451,0.0011,0.0090144,-0.0154432,0.003042,-0.0001591,-0.0141246,0.0018883,-0.0022057,-0.0042621,0.006712,0.0041719,-0.0003002,-0.0009313,-0.0045873,-0.0018809
pre-Turkish,0.109451643,0.1357406,-0.056552029,-0.049068857,-0.034488557,-0.008291629,0.0068561,-0.005111914,-0.050148643,-0.013574357,0.001467643,0.010206971,-0.017177886,0.003082171,0.000455457,-0.016216343,0.002133014,-0.002663443,-0.005083643,0.0081568,0.004986229,-0.000624957,-0.00075,-0.0049253,-0.002061414
Turkish,0.0973377,0.0712942,-0.0248398,-0.0348068,-0.0279281,-0.0124362,-0.0091799,-0.0160574,-0.0209723,0.0010597,-0.0014735,0.0006664,-0.0033004,0.0027608,-0.004461,0.0005176,0.0001753,0.0009985,0.0014887,-0.0034016,-0.0015284,0.0019731,-0.0022004,-0.0022213,-0.0006173

Interesting. And Konya is like 20% Medieval Turkic, isn't it.

Iberia is apparently closer to Armenia than Colchis.

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Interesting. And Konya is like 20% Medieval Turkic, isn't it.

Right!