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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogan View Post
    It is actually men that like bears in a den relax as soon as they marry. Many think their duty is done.
    Women, on the other hand, exhibit care and affection by feeding which is actual part of evolution, and do not refuse their wishes, but only at the beginning of marriage. Many gain a few pounds in first years.
    It's really recent thing, that came with marriage, when the guys think now their "life is over". For better or worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    In not so distant past among peasants from Dalmatia (probably Herzegovina as well) obesity was very rare. Malnutrition was more common.
    There were years of starvation in Dalmatian hinterland in 18th and 19th centuries and people migrated to Pannonian plain, also even to Ottoman Bosnia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogan View Post
    Ok. I know that Bosnia is still one of the poorest countries, thus I was wondering were there any differences within the state (regions, cantons).
    Bosnia was one of the purest republics of Yugoslavia. In the Serbian Orthodox Church traditionally there is more priests from Bosnia than from any other region. Bosnian Serbs went more often to a school for priest than other Serbs because of poverty. Here were i live half of priests are Bosnians. Current Serbian patriarch is Bosnian.
    In Bosnia until mid or second half of 20th century existed shepherds who in the colder part of year led own sheep from Bosnian mountains to Vojvodina, Slavonia and Istria. Such semi-nomadic shepherds existed at Vlašić until 1970s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlašić...d_Herzegovina)


    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    There were years of starvation in Dalmatian hinterland in 18th and 19th centuries and people migrated to Pannonian plain, also even to Ottoman Bosnia.
    Yes. Large part of present day native Syrmian Serbs are descendants of settlers from Dalmatia and Lika in 18th and 19th century. For example these native families from Batajnica are of further Krajinian (from Dalmatia/Lika) origin: Barišić, Bokun, Bogunović, Grkinić, Dobrić, Dubajić, Ergić, Knežević, Ležajić, Ličanin, Mirilović, Opačić, Smuđa, Pražić, Uzelac, Radišić, Rašula, Straživuk, Stojsavljević, Šarac, Medić etc. (https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Батајница#Историја).
    The strongest starvation in Dalmatian hinterland was 1771-1774. Over 1000 families in that period moved to Ottoman Bosnia, Syrmia, Banat (mostly around Timişoara) and eastern Galicia. Vast majority of that emigrants were Serbs/Orthodoxes. The largest number of them moved to Galicia - 303 families. It was about 3000 people, since average number of members in 1 family in Dalmatian hinterland in 18th century was about 10. Dalmatian emigrants to Galicia in the sources are recorded as emigrants in Poland, they arrived in same year when Austrians took Galicia from Poland. It is present day western Ukraine.
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    ^^^^similar Croatian story: Ante Botić's first Slavonian story: Trilj people on a land "without stones"

    After Dalmatia, the most Dalmatians live in Slavonia. For decades, thousands of people from the Dalmatian karst left for a better life in Slavonia, with the small luggage that contained their entire previous life, because it symbolized the promised land for them. This is also the case with people from the northeastern part of the Trilj region.

    https://www.ferata.hr/prva-slavonska...i-brez-kamena/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    ^^^^similar Croatian story: Ante Botić's first Slavonian story: Trilj people on a land "without stones"

    After Dalmatia, the most Dalmatians live in Slavonia. For decades, thousands of people from the Dalmatian karst left for a better life in Slavonia, with the small luggage that contained their entire previous life, because it symbolized the promised land for them. This is also the case with people from the northeastern part of the Trilj region.

    https://www.ferata.hr/prva-slavonska...i-brez-kamena/
    It is about organized colonization of Croatians from Dalmatian hinterland to Slavonia after WW1 and WW2. It seems they were coming to Slavonia also earlier individually or in smaller groups. Ivan Meštrović is born in 1883. in Slavonia in the family of settlers from Otavice (Drniš).

    Serbs from Lika, Dalmatia and Bosnia were coming in Vojvodina (mostly to Syrmia) in Habsburg period mostly individually or in smaller groups, but in long period (roughly 1750-1900). Exception is 1771. when a larger group came. After WW1 and WW2 was organized colonization of Serbs from these and some other regions to Vojvodina. Colonist from 20th century have transferred some toponyms to Vojvodina: Mala Bosna (Subotica) named by Bosnia, Sutjeska near Sečanj (Banat) named by river Sutjeska in eastern Herzegovina, Novi Kozarci (Kikinda) named by Kozarac in NW Bosnia, Bački Gračac named by Gračac in Lika, Bački Obrovac named by Obrovac in Dalmatia, Velebit (Kanjiža) named by mount Velebit in Lika etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    My mother several times said that people in Serbia are noticeable fatter than in Dalmatian hinterland.
    Thats because of the post ww2 diet and life conditions .No toiling and fasting like they once did .In pre ww2 photos of Serbian people i posted in dozens folks are generally normal or slim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorab12 View Post
    Thats because of the post ww2 diet and life conditions .No toiling and fasting like they once did .In pre ww2 photos of Serbian people i posted in dozens forlks are generally normal or slim.
    We live in Syrmia where locals/natives are among the fattest in Serbia on average. In nearby Belgrade people are also fatter than Serbian average, because of distinctly urban way of life which includes eating junk food, weak physical activity etc. Her opinion is mostly based at Syrmia/Belgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    We live in Syrmia where locals/natives are among the fattest in Serbia on average. In nearby Belgrade people are also fatter than Serbian average, because of distinctly urban way of life which includes eating junk food, weak physical activity etc. Her opinion is mostly based at Syrmia/Belgrade.
    Slažem se da je zadriglost posledica havarije od životnih navika što generalno poružnuje čoveka .Pogledaj samo Elvisa Prislija kako se izobličio od banana splitova i lekova pred smrt.A na početku karijere lep ko slika bez gej pretenzija
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