Multi ethnic neighbourhoods vs ghettos

[Tooting Carmen]

People often conflate the two, but they are not the same at all. I have a friend of Gujarati descent originally from Leicester, and he himself says he hates living in overwhelmingly South Asian neighbourhoods, such as where he grew up in Leicester, or Southall and Wembley in London, or Sparkbrook and Washwood Heath in Birmingham. However, the parts of London he does like are where there is no strong predominance of any ethnic group: you can have one neighbour who is English, one who is Italian, one who is Polish, one who is Swedish, one who is Jamaican, one who is Pakistani, one who is Honduran, one who is Ghanaian, one who is Korean, and so on and so forth. What do others think about this?

[Your Old Comrade]

Here most neighbourhoods tend to be rather mixed, socio-economically speaking, but even here it seems to be the case that if you are financially able to avoid having to share your postal code with migrants, you do.

[Nurzat]

I'd absolutely love to live in a truly multicultural neighbourhood with people of all kind of geographic, cultural and racial background. on the condition it's not a ghetto with low household income and criminality

[Tooting Carmen]

Here most neighbourhoods tend to be rather mixed, socio-economically speaking, but even here it seems to be the case that if you are financially able to avoid having to share your postal code with migrants, you do.

Although the least deprived borough in London is also the whitest - Richmond-upon-Thames - even there, non whites make up 19.5% of the population according to the 2021 Census. Quite apart from all the Continental Europeans, North Americans, Australians and White South Africans who live in substantial numbers there, as is the case elsewhere in the capital too.

[Tooting Carmen]

Looking at the 2021 Census stats again, there are a number of London boroughs where no single non-white ethnic group makes up double digits percentage-wise:

INNER LONDON

Camden (35.4% White British, 21.1% White Other, 2.5% White Irish)
City of London (42.5% White British, 24% White Other, 2.2% White Irish)
Hammersmith and Fulham (38.3% White British, 21.4% White Other, 2.6% White Irish)
Haringey (31.9% White British, 22.1% White Other, 2.2% White Irish)
Islington (39.7% White British, 18.7% White Other, 3.3% White Irish)
Kensington and Chelsea (32.7% White British, 28.3% White Other, 2% White Irish)
Wandsworth (48% White British, 16.8% White Other, 2.5% White Irish)
Westminster (28% White British, 24.6% White Other, 1.8% White Irish)

OUTER LONDON

Barnet (36.2% White British, 19.2% White Other, 2% White Irish)
Bexley (64.4% White British, 6% White Other, 1% White Irish)
Bromley (66.5% White British, 8.1% White Other, 1.5% White Irish)
Havering (66.5% White British, 7.4% White Other, 1.1% White Irish)
Kingston-upon-Thames (53.7% White British, 12.7% White Other, 1.6% White Irish)
Merton (41.2% White British, 16.5% White Other, 2% White Irish)
Richmond-upon-Thames (63% White British, 14.7% White Other, 2.5% White Irish)
Sutton (57.2% White British, 9.3% White Other, 1.5% White Irish)

[Petalpusher]

They are the same thing in France.

[Tooting Carmen]

They are the same thing in France.

Aren't there some prosperous parts of Paris where you can find a French person, an Italian, a Swede, a Pole, a Qatari, a Chinese, a Brazilian and a Nigerian all living in the same apartment block?

[Petalpusher]

Aren't there some prosperous parts of Paris where you can find a French person, an Italian, a Swede, a Pole, a Qatari, a Chinese, a Brazilian and a Nigerian all living in the same apartment block?

That would be a negligible occurence with that much diversity but possible, in an upscale building of the 16th or 5th district of Paris for example. The proportions in the general population would look nothing like above though.

The multi ethnic banlieues with no French, and next to no white left even sometimes, are the ghettos.

[Tooting Carmen]

That would be a negligible occurence with that much diversity but possible, in an upscale building of the 16th or 5th district of Paris for example. The proportions in the general population would look nothing like above though.

The multi ethnic banlieues with no French, and next to no white left even sometimes, are the ghettos.

By multi-ethnic I don't just mean different groups of nonwhites, but also Whites from a range of ethnic groups and nationalities themselves.

[Petalpusher]

By multi-ethnic I don't just mean different groups of nonwhites, but also Whites from a range of ethnic groups and nationalities themselves.

I get that, you would find some districts like this, mainly the 18th but it's like half black and everything else in the book. Or a sub part of the 13th with all the East Asians, and mostly whites in the rest of the district. The 3&4 Marais might be a bit cosmopolitan like that too (it's the gay districts of Paris). Elsewhere you will see a lot of diversity during the days but they aren't living there.