Page 8 of 8 FirstFirst ... 45678
Results 71 to 79 of 79

Thread: Polygyny IS NOT a sin.

  1. #71
    Veteran Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Last Online
    03-19-2024 @ 10:52 PM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    insan
    Ethnicity
    @
    Country
    Antarctica
    Gender
    Posts
    3,059
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 3,748
    Given: 9,033

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverKnight View Post
    I been married for four years (on my mother's life) only woman I've touched, kissed and slept with (all that time) has been with my wife, so before you come here with your big f*ggt mouth, think twice before saying something.
    You stinky ignorant, a coward like you can easily use such insults but it doesn’t change the fact you are talking nonsense again. No offense, you aren’t smart, you don’t look good the only thing which you have to attract other women is your fake account balance. It would be a disaster if it would be allowed for you marrying more women, the movie idiocracy doesn’t seem to be a comedy movie anymore every time I am reading your postings here.

  2. #72
    ~ WHITE LIVES MATTER ~ SilverKnight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:46 AM
    Location
    In the free and sane part of the USA.
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Celto-Iberian & Sene-Gambian
    Ethnicity
    Dominican American
    Ancestry
    Northern Spain, Canarian, Andaluz, W. África & Taino (Amerind)
    Country
    Dominican-Republic
    Region
    Florida
    Taxonomy
    Atlanto-Med + Congolid
    Politics
    Right-wing, ultra nationalism and anti-commie scum.
    Hero
    Jesus Christ, Dad, R. Trujillo, Andrew Tate, Vladimir Putin & Donald J. Trump, Loki & ♥Lily
    Religion
    Baptist - Christian
    Relationship Status
    Married parent
    Age
    32
    Gender
    Posts
    15,553
    Blog Entries
    1
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 5,670
    Given: 9,047

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Silverknight
    "..And the angle of the sun changed it all .."






  3. #73
    ~ WHITE LIVES MATTER ~ SilverKnight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:46 AM
    Location
    In the free and sane part of the USA.
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Celto-Iberian & Sene-Gambian
    Ethnicity
    Dominican American
    Ancestry
    Northern Spain, Canarian, Andaluz, W. África & Taino (Amerind)
    Country
    Dominican-Republic
    Region
    Florida
    Taxonomy
    Atlanto-Med + Congolid
    Politics
    Right-wing, ultra nationalism and anti-commie scum.
    Hero
    Jesus Christ, Dad, R. Trujillo, Andrew Tate, Vladimir Putin & Donald J. Trump, Loki & ♥Lily
    Religion
    Baptist - Christian
    Relationship Status
    Married parent
    Age
    32
    Gender
    Posts
    15,553
    Blog Entries
    1
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 5,670
    Given: 9,047

    1 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DraviXi99 View Post
    Monogamy is modernism,humans were made for polygamy.
    Amen brotha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Incal View Post
    Especially women.
    Well, the Bible says a woman can't have more than 1 husband, you wouldn't know who the child's father is unless you take a DNA.. Also there would be a mess as far as determining who the head of the house would be. It also says it is a sin to mix different seeds into one woman.
    Silverknight
    "..And the angle of the sun changed it all .."






  4. #74
    Veteran Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Last Online
    03-19-2024 @ 10:52 PM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    insan
    Ethnicity
    @
    Country
    Antarctica
    Gender
    Posts
    3,059
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 3,748
    Given: 9,033

    1 Not allowed!

    Default

    God created you just before the closing time.

  5. #75
    Curaca Incal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Last Online
    Today @ 08:32 PM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Exotic Med
    Ethnicity
    Racial Tragedy
    Country
    Peru
    Politics
    Xenelasia
    Religion
    Chinas con Culo
    Gender
    Posts
    26,651
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 18,477
    Given: 13,191

    1 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverKnight View Post
    Well, the Bible says a woman can't have more than 1 husband, you wouldn't know who the child's father is unless you take a DNA.. Also there would be a mess as far as determining who the head of the house would be. It also says it is a sin to mix different seeds into one woman.
    I'm not talking about the bible but humankind history: Quien dijere que en su linaje no hay puta, ladrón ni pobre, ponga aquí su nombre.

  6. #76
    Carlson's Raider HectorOfTroy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2018
    Last Online
    04-24-2024 @ 08:01 PM
    Location
    Eridanus II
    Meta-Ethnicity
    SPARTAN II & SPARTAN III
    Ethnicity
    bro
    Ancestry
    iberian + amerindian with minor iranic and east euro admix
    Country
    Antarctica
    Y-DNA
    R1b
    mtDNA
    R0
    Taxonomy
    Rather tall, meso-brachyskelic, ecto-meso
    Politics
    Guns
    Religion
    Christian
    Gender
    Posts
    1,392
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 923
    Given: 1,156

    4 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Insuperable View Post
    I love vagina as much as the next man, but polygyny is kinda retarded. It just doesn't feel right.
    Because it isn't. Using some practice from a vastly different time period where most men died before and in early adulthood, to use in modernity is retarded. "wanting family" my ass. That's a quote from Andrew Taint and the dude is an ex pimp (possibly ex-trafficker, not unlikely given how he bragged about using women for his schemes) "for family" my ass, lust is 50% of it. The other 50% for guys who have been completley burned by women holding power in modern marriages which is the only reasonable/understandable part of the argument but still doesn't justify polygyny, adding polygyny to solve that is like quenching a dehydrated person's thirst with coke.

  7. #77
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2021
    Last Online
    04-25-2024 @ 07:30 AM
    Location
    Stavropol, Russia
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Southerner
    Ethnicity
    Russian
    Ancestry
    Russian, Ukrainian, Greek, Vlach
    Country
    Russia
    Politics
    Monarchism
    Religion
    Christianity
    Age
    37
    Gender
    Posts
    7,478
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 7,237
    Given: 7,503

    3 Not allowed!

    Default

    The biblical teaching on marriage clearly assumes monogamy. Having created Adam, the Lord God said: it is not good for man to be alone; Let us make him a helper suitable for him (Gen. 2:18). The marriage of our first parents, according to the Creator's plan, was to become the rule for building this most important life union for all subsequent generations: Therefore a man will leave his father and his mother and cleave to his wife; and they will become one flesh (Gen. 2:24). The Savior repeated these words to the Pharisees who tempted Him (Matthew 19:3-6).

    Lamech was the first to violate the Divine decree on marriage: And Lamech took for himself two wives (Gen. 4:19). The sacred writer portrays this closest descendant of Cain as arrogant and cruel: the wives of Lamech! listen to my words: I killed a man for my wound and a boy for my wound (Gen. 4:23). This was a clear abuse, contrary to the Divine will. Later, when the promise was given to Abraham (I will make your descendants like the sand of the earth; Gen. 13:16), polygamy was often encountered in Old Testament history, but this is only God’s permission. So the elderly Sarah, heavily experiencing her infertility, said to Abraham: behold, the Lord has shut up my womb so that I will not give birth; Go in to my maid; perhaps I will have children by her. Abram obeyed Sarah's words (Gen. 16:2). Patriarch Jacob gave birth to twelve sons from two wives and two maidservants. This story is known in detail. For seven years Jacob worked for his uncle Laban to marry his beloved Rachel. He did not think about any polygamy, but wanted to fulfill the instructions of his father Isaac: get up, go to Mesopotamia, to the house of Bethuel, your mother’s father, and take yourself a wife from there, from the daughters of Laban, your mother’s brother (Gen. 28:2) . But Laban deceived him and gave him Leah instead of Rachel, which he found out about in the morning. As for the maid Bilhah, who gave birth to Dan and Naphtali, this was the desire of Rachel, who grieved greatly because of her barrenness: behold my maid Bilhah; come in to her; let her bear on my knees, that I also may have children by her (Gen. 30:3). Likewise, Zilpah gave birth to Gad and Asher at the request of Leah, when she stopped giving birth (Gen. 29:35).

    We cannot ignore the fact that this struggle for the multiplication of offspring, both in the case of Abraham and in the history of Jacob, which led to a retreat from monogamy, was paid at a great price - disruption of peace and disorder in families. After the birth of Ishmael, Hagar began to despise her mistress (Gen. 16:4). Sarah kicked her out, and she almost died in the desert with her child. Envy flared up between the sisters Rachel and Leah, and rivalry began. After the birth of Naphtali, Rachel said, “I fought mightily with my sister and prevailed” (Gen. 30:8). The beginning of the 1st book of Samuel (1:1-6) tells about the mother of the great prophet Samuel, Anna. Her husband Elkanah had another wife, Peninnah, who offended Hannah: she grieved her, but this one cried and did not eat (1 Samuel 1:7)

    From this it is clear that the Bible does not legitimize polygamy, but, on the contrary, it is shown that it leads to a loss of peace in relationships.

    Some Jewish kings had many wives, but the Holy Scriptures do not approve of this, because it was contrary to the law. The prophet Moses speaks about the future king: so that he does not multiply wives, lest his heart be corrupted (Deut. 17:17). The Lord rebuked Solomon: because this is how you do it, and you have not kept My covenant and My statutes, which I commanded you, I will tear the kingdom away from you and give it to your servant (1 Kings 11:11). It is known that among the sins of Solomon, which the sacred writer names, was polygamy.

    The Bible speaks of monogamous marriage as the only morally possible form of marriage: Blessed be thy Fountain; and take comfort in the wife of your youth (Prov. 5:18); He who finds a [good] wife has found good and received grace from the Lord (Prov. 18:23); You say: "for what?" Because the Lord was a witness between you and the wife of your youth, against whom you acted treacherously, while she is your friend and your lawful wife (Mal. 2:14). According to biblical teaching, it is love for his only wife that can give a person earthly joys and brighten up the severity of life’s work: Enjoy life with the wife you love all the days of your vain life, and whom God has given you under the sun for all your vain days; because this is your portion in life and in your labors, as you labor under the sun (Eccl. 9:9).

    The prophets used the image of marriage to symbolize the relationship between God and His people. They thought of only one form - monogamy: As a young man marries a virgin, so will your sons marry you; and [as] the groom rejoices over the bride, so will your God rejoice over you (Isa. 62:5). Since we are talking about the election of one people and the promises given by God in relation to this people, then the husband should have only one wife - the wife of his youth.

    In the Holy Gospel, the teaching on marriage is raised to a special spiritual height. The redeeming love of Jesus Christ for the Church constitutes the image and living rule that spouses must follow. Apostolic admonition to spouses about love and loyalty captured by an indication of the mystery of Christ’s love for His Church. Therefore, the joy of the final victory is called in the Apocalypse the marriage of the Lamb: Let us rejoice and be glad and give glory to Him; For the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready. And it was given to her to be clothed in fine linen, clean and bright; The fine linen is the righteousness of the saints. And [the Angel] said to me: Write: Blessed are those who are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb (Rev. 19:7-9).

    After the sublime gospel teaching on marriage, the admission of polygamy means a fall from a spiritual height to the everyday and physiological level. The Koran allows a husband to have four wives (4:3). This establishment shows not the Divine, but the human source of the origin of Islam. The main motive is clearly visible - sensual. Muhammad himself had more wives than the number established by him in the Koran: “He left behind him nine wives. The total number of women whom the Messenger of Allah married was thirteen: Khadija, the daughter of Khuwaylid - she was the first woman whom the Prophet married... The Messenger of Allah gave twenty young camels for her. She bore the Prophet all his children except Ibrahim... The Prophet married Aisha, the daughter of Abu Bakr al-Siddiq in Mecca when she was seven years old. And he began to live with her in Medina when she was nine or ten years old. Aisha was the only virgin whom the Prophet married..." (Ibn Hisham. Lives of the Prophet Muhammad. Chapter. Wives of the Prophet). Muhammad liked Zeinab, the wife of his adopted son Zeid. He divorced them and took her as one of his nine as his wife.

    Sometimes you are surprised at how elastic human logic can be when they try to justify any imperfection. Modern defenders of Islam are trying to prove that polygamy is the best form of family to solve moral, demographic and social problems. They say that polygamy is necessary because there are far more women than men in society. This is completely false. According to demographic statistics in 2000-2002, there were women per 100 men: in the world as a whole - 98.5; in Islamic states – 97.1; in Saudi Arabia – 87.4; in Iran 95.5. In Tajikistan, according to the 2000 national census, the population was 6.1 million people. Of these, 49.7% are women, and 50.3% are men.

    The statement about the moral benefits of polygamy is false. It is known that a certain measure of harmony in the relationship between two spouses is achieved through long and difficult mutual efforts. We must gradually overcome or weaken the defects that are deeply rooted in fallen human nature. In the family of a polygamous husband, this is unattainable. This family becomes a breeding ground for such passions as envy, rivalry, resentment, etc. Polygamy is only a form of legalized cohabitation, but not marriage in the high meaning that the Word of God defined this saving life union: live in love, just as Christ loved us and He gave himself for us as an offering and sacrifice to God for a sweet savour (Eph. 5:2).

  8. #78
    Carlson's Raider HectorOfTroy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2018
    Last Online
    04-24-2024 @ 08:01 PM
    Location
    Eridanus II
    Meta-Ethnicity
    SPARTAN II & SPARTAN III
    Ethnicity
    bro
    Ancestry
    iberian + amerindian with minor iranic and east euro admix
    Country
    Antarctica
    Y-DNA
    R1b
    mtDNA
    R0
    Taxonomy
    Rather tall, meso-brachyskelic, ecto-meso
    Politics
    Guns
    Religion
    Christian
    Gender
    Posts
    1,392
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 923
    Given: 1,156

    1 Not allowed!

    Default

    Well said.
    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    The statement about the moral benefits of polygamy is false.
    That was something that was only ever really said/attempted to be put forward by the Taint bros tbh. Literal ex pimps.

  9. #79
    ~ WHITE LIVES MATTER ~ SilverKnight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:46 AM
    Location
    In the free and sane part of the USA.
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Celto-Iberian & Sene-Gambian
    Ethnicity
    Dominican American
    Ancestry
    Northern Spain, Canarian, Andaluz, W. África & Taino (Amerind)
    Country
    Dominican-Republic
    Region
    Florida
    Taxonomy
    Atlanto-Med + Congolid
    Politics
    Right-wing, ultra nationalism and anti-commie scum.
    Hero
    Jesus Christ, Dad, R. Trujillo, Andrew Tate, Vladimir Putin & Donald J. Trump, Loki & ♥Lily
    Religion
    Baptist - Christian
    Relationship Status
    Married parent
    Age
    32
    Gender
    Posts
    15,553
    Blog Entries
    1
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 5,670
    Given: 9,047

    1 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DraviXi99 View Post
    Monogamy is modernism,humans were made for polygamy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    The biblical teaching on marriage clearly assumes monogamy. Having created Adam, the Lord God said: it is not good for man to be alone; Let us make him a helper suitable for him (Gen. 2:18). The marriage of our first parents, according to the Creator's plan, was to become the rule for building this most important life union for all subsequent generations: Therefore a man will leave his father and his mother and cleave to his wife; and they will become one flesh (Gen. 2:24). The Savior repeated these words to the Pharisees who tempted Him (Matthew 19:3-6).

    Lamech was the first to violate the Divine decree on marriage: And Lamech took for himself two wives (Gen. 4:19). The sacred writer portrays this closest descendant of Cain as arrogant and cruel: the wives of Lamech! listen to my words: I killed a man for my wound and a boy for my wound (Gen. 4:23). This was a clear abuse, contrary to the Divine will. Later, when the promise was given to Abraham (I will make your descendants like the sand of the earth; Gen. 13:16), polygamy was often encountered in Old Testament history, but this is only God’s permission. So the elderly Sarah, heavily experiencing her infertility, said to Abraham: behold, the Lord has shut up my womb so that I will not give birth; Go in to my maid; perhaps I will have children by her. Abram obeyed Sarah's words (Gen. 16:2). Patriarch Jacob gave birth to twelve sons from two wives and two maidservants. This story is known in detail. For seven years Jacob worked for his uncle Laban to marry his beloved Rachel. He did not think about any polygamy, but wanted to fulfill the instructions of his father Isaac: get up, go to Mesopotamia, to the house of Bethuel, your mother’s father, and take yourself a wife from there, from the daughters of Laban, your mother’s brother (Gen. 28:2) . But Laban deceived him and gave him Leah instead of Rachel, which he found out about in the morning. As for the maid Bilhah, who gave birth to Dan and Naphtali, this was the desire of Rachel, who grieved greatly because of her barrenness: behold my maid Bilhah; come in to her; let her bear on my knees, that I also may have children by her (Gen. 30:3). Likewise, Zilpah gave birth to Gad and Asher at the request of Leah, when she stopped giving birth (Gen. 29:35).

    We cannot ignore the fact that this struggle for the multiplication of offspring, both in the case of Abraham and in the history of Jacob, which led to a retreat from monogamy, was paid at a great price - disruption of peace and disorder in families. After the birth of Ishmael, Hagar began to despise her mistress (Gen. 16:4). Sarah kicked her out, and she almost died in the desert with her child. Envy flared up between the sisters Rachel and Leah, and rivalry began. After the birth of Naphtali, Rachel said, “I fought mightily with my sister and prevailed” (Gen. 30:8). The beginning of the 1st book of Samuel (1:1-6) tells about the mother of the great prophet Samuel, Anna. Her husband Elkanah had another wife, Peninnah, who offended Hannah: she grieved her, but this one cried and did not eat (1 Samuel 1:7)

    From this it is clear that the Bible does not legitimize polygamy, but, on the contrary, it is shown that it leads to a loss of peace in relationships.

    Some Jewish kings had many wives, but the Holy Scriptures do not approve of this, because it was contrary to the law. The prophet Moses speaks about the future king: so that he does not multiply wives, lest his heart be corrupted (Deut. 17:17). The Lord rebuked Solomon: because this is how you do it, and you have not kept My covenant and My statutes, which I commanded you, I will tear the kingdom away from you and give it to your servant (1 Kings 11:11). It is known that among the sins of Solomon, which the sacred writer names, was polygamy.

    The Bible speaks of monogamous marriage as the only morally possible form of marriage: Blessed be thy Fountain; and take comfort in the wife of your youth (Prov. 5:18); He who finds a [good] wife has found good and received grace from the Lord (Prov. 18:23); You say: "for what?" Because the Lord was a witness between you and the wife of your youth, against whom you acted treacherously, while she is your friend and your lawful wife (Mal. 2:14). According to biblical teaching, it is love for his only wife that can give a person earthly joys and brighten up the severity of life’s work: Enjoy life with the wife you love all the days of your vain life, and whom God has given you under the sun for all your vain days; because this is your portion in life and in your labors, as you labor under the sun (Eccl. 9:9).

    The prophets used the image of marriage to symbolize the relationship between God and His people. They thought of only one form - monogamy: As a young man marries a virgin, so will your sons marry you; and [as] the groom rejoices over the bride, so will your God rejoice over you (Isa. 62:5). Since we are talking about the election of one people and the promises given by God in relation to this people, then the husband should have only one wife - the wife of his youth.

    In the Holy Gospel, the teaching on marriage is raised to a special spiritual height. The redeeming love of Jesus Christ for the Church constitutes the image and living rule that spouses must follow. Apostolic admonition to spouses about love and loyalty captured by an indication of the mystery of Christ’s love for His Church. Therefore, the joy of the final victory is called in the Apocalypse the marriage of the Lamb: Let us rejoice and be glad and give glory to Him; For the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready. And it was given to her to be clothed in fine linen, clean and bright; The fine linen is the righteousness of the saints. And [the Angel] said to me: Write: Blessed are those who are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb (Rev. 19:7-9).

    After the sublime gospel teaching on marriage, the admission of polygamy means a fall from a spiritual height to the everyday and physiological level. The Koran allows a husband to have four wives (4:3). This establishment shows not the Divine, but the human source of the origin of Islam. The main motive is clearly visible - sensual. Muhammad himself had more wives than the number established by him in the Koran: “He left behind him nine wives. The total number of women whom the Messenger of Allah married was thirteen: Khadija, the daughter of Khuwaylid - she was the first woman whom the Prophet married... The Messenger of Allah gave twenty young camels for her. She bore the Prophet all his children except Ibrahim... The Prophet married Aisha, the daughter of Abu Bakr al-Siddiq in Mecca when she was seven years old. And he began to live with her in Medina when she was nine or ten years old. Aisha was the only virgin whom the Prophet married..." (Ibn Hisham. Lives of the Prophet Muhammad. Chapter. Wives of the Prophet). Muhammad liked Zeinab, the wife of his adopted son Zeid. He divorced them and took her as one of his nine as his wife.

    Sometimes you are surprised at how elastic human logic can be when they try to justify any imperfection. Modern defenders of Islam are trying to prove that polygamy is the best form of family to solve moral, demographic and social problems. They say that polygamy is necessary because there are far more women than men in society. This is completely false. According to demographic statistics in 2000-2002, there were women per 100 men: in the world as a whole - 98.5; in Islamic states – 97.1; in Saudi Arabia – 87.4; in Iran 95.5. In Tajikistan, according to the 2000 national census, the population was 6.1 million people. Of these, 49.7% are women, and 50.3% are men.

    The statement about the moral benefits of polygamy is false. It is known that a certain measure of harmony in the relationship between two spouses is achieved through long and difficult mutual efforts. We must gradually overcome or weaken the defects that are deeply rooted in fallen human nature. In the family of a polygamous husband, this is unattainable. This family becomes a breeding ground for such passions as envy, rivalry, resentment, etc. Polygamy is only a form of legalized cohabitation, but not marriage in the high meaning that the Word of God defined this saving life union: live in love, just as Christ loved us and He gave himself for us as an offering and sacrifice to God for a sweet savour (Eph. 5:2).
    #1 - How do you know if Adam didn't have more than 1 wife? (apart from Eve) ? .. we will never know.
    #2 - How one verse in the Bible where it clearly states that polygyny is a sin (violates his laws). Moses... David and many many others had more than one wife..
    Silverknight
    "..And the angle of the sun changed it all .."






Page 8 of 8 FirstFirst ... 45678

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •