What do Slavs think of Pan-Slavism?

[thatoneton]

Nowadays the idea has narrowed down to a mostly Polish circlejerk where Polish people discuss how they want to distance themselves from Russia and agreeing with each other. Their usual echochamber is Reddit.

Quite funny.
But untrue, because you mostly finds people talk about Slavic brotherhood and unity being Russians bashing Poles and Ukrainians and/or other nations that happens to speak a Slavic language for being disloyal to Russia by not following whatever Russia wants.

[rothaer]

(...) Pan-Slavism (...)
Nowadays the idea has narrowed down to a mostly Polish circlejerk where Polish people discuss how they want to distance themselves from Russia and agreeing with each other. Their usual echochamber is Reddit.

[rothaer]

Since "Slavs" is a linguistic classification (with a very corrupted name BTW) (...)

Can you elaborate? I hitherto viewed that name legit considering all the -slav names. Admittedly, these are no deeper thoughts.

[Dušan]

There were two attempts of South-Slavia, both failed in bloody wars.

Neverthless, I have sympathies for northern Slavs (Czechs, Slovaks, Poles, Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians), and naturaly find them closer than Swedes or Irish or Portuguese...

[Victor]

Its useless.

[thatoneton]

Can you elaborate? I hitherto viewed that name legit considering all the -slav names. Admittedly, these are no deeper thoughts.

The reconstructed form is Slověninъ and more or less a similar name is found in Slavic languages (following certain development characteristic for each group). For example Polish "Słowianin".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs#Ethnonym

Slav is a corrupted form going more or less from original Slovenin to something like plural "Sklaveni" in Greek: Sklabenoi Sklauenoi Sklavenoi Sklabinoi - basically standing for plural "Slaveni" - for comparison Polish plural "Słowianie".
It then got shorted and passed to other European languages basically giving something like Sklavinoi - Sklavos - Slav.

Notice that no matter which language you look at - Russian Славяне (Slavianie); Czech Slované; Polish Słowianie, Serbian Словени (Sloveni), it's never Slav(s).

[rothaer]

The reconstructed form is Slověninъ and more or less a similar words is found in the Slavic languages (following certain development characteristic for each group). For example Polish Słowianin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs#Ethnonym

Slav is a corrupted form going more or less from original Slovenin to something like plural "Sklaveni" in Greek: Sklabenoi Sklauenoi Sklavenoi Sklabinoi - basically standing for plural "Slaveni" - for comparison Polish plural "Słowianie".
It then got shorted and passed to other European languages basically giving something like Sklavinoi - Sklavos - Slav.

Got it. Thanks. The stem -slav in names is then in fact not related to Slav.

[Voskos]

Panslavism does exist in some implicit form. I know a few serbs, they hang out a lot with russians and yugos of all sorts, even croats. Russians themselves hang out a lot with ukrainians. So all the groups are tied together one way or the other. Now the Czechs and the Poles are some sort of exception in there, they seem to seek closer ties to other countries.

[thatoneton]

Got it. Thanks. The stem -slav in names is then in fact not related to Slav.

What you're asking about does not come from an ethnic name, but the etymology is definitely related.
This -slav (or in Polish -sław) comes from "slava" https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Recon...o-Slavic/slava (glory, fame) in this case meaning "to praise" "to give glory" and the part before it being what is being praised (by this name).

For example, an old Polish name (still in use) "Mirosław", comes from "Mir" (peace) and "sław" and means something along the lines of "one that praises peace" "one that brings peace".

The name "Slovenin" comes from "slovo" (Polish: Słowo) "word" and means (in plural) "people that speaks one language" - as opposed to nearby non-Slavic speaking populations.

The two names (slovo and slava) are actually etymologically related.

[Dušan]

What you're asking about does not come from an ethnic name, but the etymology is definitely related.
This -slav (or in Polish -sław) comes from "slava" https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Recon...o-Slavic/slava (glory, fame) in this case meaning "to praise" "to give glory" and the part before it being what is being praised (by this name).

For example, an old Polish name (still in use) "Mirosław", comes from "Mir" (peace) and "sław" and means something along the lines of "one that praises peace" "one that brings peace".

The name "Slovenin" comes from "slovo" (Polish: Słowo) "word" and means "people that speaks one language" - as opposed to nearby non-Slavic speaking populations.

The two names (slovo and slava) are actually etymologically related.

We also have name Miroslav.



Miroslav Gospel (Serbian: Мирослављево jеванђеље / Miroslavljevo jevanđelje) is a 362-page Serbian illuminated manuscript Gospel Book on parchment with very rich decorations. It is one of the oldest surviving documents written in the Serbian recension of Church Slavonic.

Miroslav's Gospel was commissioned in the 12th century (in the year 1180) by Miroslav, the ruler (knez) of Hum and the brother of Stefan Nemanja, the Grand Prince of Serbia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miroslav_Gospel