How much phenotype overlap does Turkey have with its neighbours?

[Tooting Carmen]

-Bulgaria
-Greece
-Georgia
-Armenia
-Iran
-Iraq
-Syria

[Kess]

Greece, Georgia and Armenia should have the highest overlap among those.

[Tooting Carmen]

Greece, Georgia and Armenia should have the highest overlap among those.

What proportion of Turks would you estimate can pass in those countries (and vice versa)?

[Kess]

1-Greece by a small margin mostly due to prevalence of Pontid
2-Armenia due to prevalence of Anatolid which is an Armenoid type
3-Georgia due to Eastern Black Sea population.
4-Iran maybe due to Kurdish population
5-Syria
6-Iraq

[Kess]

What proportion of Turks would you estimate can pass in those countries (and vice versa)?

Western Anatolians > Greece
Eastern Anatolians > Armenia and Iran
Eastern Black Sea > Georgia

[Odelia]

Western Anatolians > Greece
Eastern Anatolians > Armenia and Iran
Eastern Black Sea > Georgia

Turkey is largely flanked by Syria and then Iraq to the south. Odd you missed Syria particularly (the biggest land border with you)...And the Turks there look pretty indistinguishable from the neighboring Syrians and Iraqis as phenotypes go (I mean the Christians and Kurds, not the full blown Arab syrians/iraqis). I understand that turks have some aversion towards Arabs, but we gotta be factual here...

[Oghuz]

Proper overlap exists between eastern Anatolia and Iranian Azerbaijan in terms of phenotypes. Many of the settled Turkic populations in Iranian Azerbaijan were once natives of Eastern Anatolia. The boundary between Iran and Turkey was not ethnic but political due to war between Ottomans and Aq Qovanlu and later Saffavids.

Saying that, the difference exists as well in head shape, the Iranian Kurdish, and Azeri population has progressive features due to the baseline Corded component of Iranid phenotype. The longer face, dolichocephaly, hypsicrany etc. Turkish due to Anatolid, Armenid prevalence have different head shapes. If someone flies from Tabriz to Istanbul regularly they will start noticing the difference.

My half-decade thread here on Iranian Azeri phenotype

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...Iranian-Azeris

[Avicenna]

Proper overlap exists between eastern Anatolia and Iranian Azerbaijan in terms of phenotypes. Many of the settled Turkic populations in Iranian Azerbaijan were once natives of Eastern Anatolia. The boundary between Iran and Turkey was not ethnic but political due to war between Ottomans and Aq Qovanlu and later Saffavids.

Saying that, the difference exists as well in head shape, the Iranian Kurdish, and Azeri population has progressive features due to the baseline Corded component of Iranid phenotype. The longer face, dolichocephaly, hypsicrany etc. Turkish due to Anatolid, Armenid prevalence have different head shapes. If someone flies from Tabriz to Istanbul regularly they will start noticing the difference.

My half-decade thread here on Iranian Azeri phenotype

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...Iranian-Azeris

One thing I've always noticed is how flat headed Armenoid like head shapes Turks and even Kurds have compared to Iranians and Afghans.

[Kess]

Turkey is largely flanked by Syria and then Iraq to the south. Odd you missed Syria particularly (the biggest land border with you)...And the Turks there look pretty indistinguishable from the neighboring Syrians and Iraqis as phenotypes go (I mean the Christians and Kurds, not the full blown Arab syrians/iraqis). I understand that turks have some aversion towards Arabs, but we gotta be factual here...

Even a good portion of Turks from Hatay look nothing like Syrians. There is some overlap with Syria and Iraq only in the Eastern side of Euphrates river in Southeastern Anatolia region.

[Oghuz]

One thing I've always noticed is how flat headed Armenoid like head shapes Turks and even Kurds have compared to Iranians and Afghans.

Not all Turkish are Brachys. Cap-med, pontid are also prevalent in Turkey.