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    Quote Originally Posted by Odelia View Post
    Turkey is largely flanked by Syria and then Iraq to the south. Odd you missed Syria particularly (the biggest land border with you)...And the Turks there look pretty indistinguishable from the neighboring Syrians and Iraqis as phenotypes go (I mean the Christians and Kurds, not the full blown Arab syrians/iraqis). I understand that turks have some aversion towards Arabs, but we gotta be factual here...

    You have no idea what you are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kessaras View Post
    Greece, Georgia and Armenia should have the highest overlap among those.
    My father looks like a textbook Georgian, and so do I.
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    Eastern Thrace:

    Bulgaria: due to recent Pomak and Turkish migrations from Bulgaria.

    Greece: due to Greek Muslims (aka Patriyots), and Pomak and Turkish migrations from Greece.

    Anatolian part is quite complex and already mentioned about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odelia View Post
    I understand that turks have some aversion towards Arabs, but we gotta be factual here...
    We have undoubtedly bigger aversion toward armenians, do you see us ignoring facts about them? Unfortunately, what you want to believe isnt realistic. Despite geographic proximity, we share almost nothing with our southern neighbors. Im honestly telling you, in my life i only once mistook a Syrian for Turkish and she was wearing very heavy make-up, it was the reason. Even native Arabs of SE look considerably different than Syrians. Only Assyrians have same look but their population in Turkey is a few thousands.

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    Thracians=Bulgarians
    Western Anatolians=Greeks with exception of Turanids
    Eastern Black Sea=Georgians
    Eastern Anatolians=Iranians, armenians

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    I never been in Turkey, but it is a big country with various phenotypes and regional differences, but overall, this is how I would rank it:
    1. Azerbaijan
    2. Greece
    3. Armenia
    4. Iran
    5. Bulgaria
    6. Georgia
    7. Syria
    8. Iraq
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    Most to least:

    Greece
    Armenia
    Iran
    Bulgaria
    Georgia
    Syria
    Iraq
    Last edited by reboun; 01-08-2024 at 07:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reboun View Post
    Most to least:

    Greece
    Armenia
    Iran
    Georgia
    Syria
    Bulgaria
    Iraq
    Why such a big gap between Greece and Bulgaria?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Why such a big gap between Greece and Bulgaria?
    In fact, I have not seen many Bulgarians but AFAIK they usually look very Eastern European, am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reboun View Post
    In fact, I have not seen many Bulgarians but AFAIK they usually look very Eastern European, am I right?
    They are a little less brunet and more round-faced compared to Greeks, but still I am a little astonished you'd say that Greece is the neighbour with whom you overlap the most, yet Bulgaria is the second-least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    They are a little less brunet and more round-faced compared to Greeks, but still I am a little astonished you'd say that Greece is the neighbour with whom you overlap the most, yet Bulgaria is the second-least.
    I always thought that Bulgarians are closer to Ukrainians than they are to Greeks by phenotype. I might be wrong.

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