Countries with growing fertility rate?

[RogueState]

@Dušan

Sandžakian Muslims have higher birth rate than Bosnian Muslims. It's well known Sandžakians are more traditional, more Muslims in esence and plus clanish as Montenegrins and Albanians. Bosnian Muslims are 'Mickey Mouse' Muslims in strong majority, for most of them Islam is just national identity and something which make difference between them and their Christian neighbours. Arabs are often shoked when they see who are Bosnian Muslims in reality.

Hvala brate!

And you also know very well that lumping us with "Bosnia_Bosniaks" is not just wrong because of difference in mentality (conservative, macho, ...) or religiosity, it's also simply by lineage (genetic identity) that we differ each other.

Funny (but true) meme btw

Spoiler!

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rU-ul3rG0nw

Official website of Serbian Statistics for 2022 (published in 03/07/2023)
https://publikacije.stat.gov.rs/G202...G20231180.html

Stopa prirodnog priraštaja u Republici Srbiji iznosi -7,0‰ (smanjena je negativna vrednost za 3,9‰ u odnosu na vrednost iz 2021. godine). U Beogradskom regionu je, kao i u 2021. godini, zabeležena najniža negativna vrednost stope prirodnog priraštaja (-3,7‰), dok je najviša negativna vrednost stope prirodnog priraštaja zabeležena u Regionu Južne i Istočne Srbije (-9,8‰).

Od ukupnog broja gradova/opština u Republici Srbiji, stopa prirodnog priraštaja u 2022. godini pozitivna je u četiri opštine: Tutin (10,8‰), Novi Pazar (8,2‰), Preševo (3,0‰) i Sjenica (1,2 ‰).

[Tooting Carmen]

Surely the most revolutionary development of all in recent years has been the massive drop in fertility throughout much of the Global South, to the point where there are even some countries which you wouldn't really expect that have BELOW replacement rate birth rates, e.g. Bangladesh. Except for Afghanistan and some SSA countries, gone are the days when non-whites really did "breed like rabbits". And that doubly applies to non-white immigrant populations in the West, whose birthrates decline considerably after the first generation, proving that the notion that mass immigration is constantly needed to keep up birthrates and refresh the workforce is a half-truth at best and a massive scam at worst.

[Duarte]

Surely the most revolutionary development of all in recent years has been the massive drop in fertility throughout much of the Global South, to the point where there are even some countries which you wouldn't really expect that have BELOW replacement rate birth rates, e.g. Bangladesh.

The big Italian family is a thing of the past pisan. Mama ain't got no grand-kids to cook meatballs for anymore. Marone!

[RogueState]

We're feeling pretty hopeful these days. Israel's got its crystal ball out, predicting a major population boost – set to double in the next 40 years. Imagine, in four decades, we'll have as many Jews in Israel as there were worldwide before the whole Holocaust chapter. Now, if that's not a bit of demographic magic, I don't know what is.

It's one of the main internal contradiction of Israel: it's mostly driven by haredim (among Jews), while secular Jews (hilonim) have just above replacement level (one could say it's still better than many other developped countries) - and hilonim unconsciously know that they have to accept the social and economical burden of subsidizing haredim because thanks to them, Israel is able to keep a majority around Arabs (in and out Israel) in this land.

[Tooting Carmen]

The big Italian family is a thing of the past pisan. Mama ain't got no grand-kids to cook meatballs for anymore. Marone!

Indeed. Italy's birthrate is among the top ten lowest in the world, and correspondingly the median age in Italy is among the world's highest.

[Tooting Carmen]

It's one of the main internal contradiction of Israel: it's mostly driven by haredim (among Jews), while secular Jews (hilonim) have just above replacement level (one could say it's still better than many other developped countries) - and hilonim unconsciously know that they have to accept the social and economical burden of subsidizing haredim because thanks to them, Israel is able to keep a majority around Arabs (in and out Israel) in this land.

Many secular Jews are deeply worried about the fact they are literally being outbred by Haredim and Orthodox Jews, and what future this portends for Israel culturally and politically.

[RogueState]

Surely the most revolutionary development of all in recent years has been the massive drop in fertility throughout much of the Global South, to the point where there are even some countries which you wouldn't really expect that have BELOW replacement rate birth rates, e.g. Bangladesh. Except for Afghanistan and some SSA countries, gone are the days when non-whites really did "breed like rabbits". And that doubly applies to non-white immigrant populations in the West, whose birthrates decline considerably after the first generation, proving that the notion that mass immigration is constantly needed to keep up birthrates and refresh the workforce is a half-truth at best and a massive scam at worst.

It's true at a "pro forma" level, but you have to take into account the inertia of already existing stock of young people born and their ability to reproduce in the coming decades, i.e. the Global South will continue to grow but at slower pace, and decline only late by the end of century eventually

The biggest challenge is SSA, which maintains very high fertility, although also relatively declining - this is clearly unsustainable and might lead to brutal stop
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...N?locations=ZG

[RogueState]

Many secular Jews are deeply worried about the fact they are literally being outbred by Haredim and Orthodox Jews, and what future this portends for Israel culturally and politically.

Yes not ideal but still preferred over being ruled by Arab Muslims

[Tooting Carmen]

It's true at a "pro forma" level, but you have to take into account the inertia of already existing stock of young people born and their ability to reproduce in the coming decades, i.e. the Global South will continue to grow but at slower pace, and decline only late by the end of century eventually

The biggest challenge is SSA, which maintains very high fertility, although also relatively declining - this is clearly unsustainable and might lead to brutal stop
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...N?locations=ZG

Their populations will still increase for the same reason they have done in the developed world (with or without mass immigration, e.g. Japan): increasing longevity and better healthcare. SSA is indeed a bigger challenge, but I don't see it as totally hopeless - if it was possible to reduce birthrates to the point of reaching below replacement rates in the likes of Bangladesh, Iran, Saudi Arabia and parts of India (to say nothing of China's coercive One Child Policy), then I am sure at least parts of Sub-Saharan Africa will follow suit at some point too.

[RogueState]

Indeed. Italy's birthrate is among the top ten lowest in the world, and correspondingly the median age in Italy is among the world's highest.

Proving once again that being stereotyped as good lover/romantic people doesn't mean having children, i.e. quantity of sex =/= reproduction; which is unique to human species compared to the rest of other living creatures

I don't have the data but my intuition that countries where people have the most sexual relationships in a year is negatively correlated with birth rates