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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    When you subtract babies born to parents with immigrant background from the statistics, Western European birth rates are the same as East Asian.
    I doubt. East asian birth rate is lower than 1 in general, average european is 1,4. Migrants dont contribute 50% more birth rate to Europe. Is bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    I doubt. East asian birth rate is lower than 1 in general, average european is 1,4. Migrants dont contribute 50% more birth rate to Europe. Is bullshit.
    I said western European, not European.

    Read what Dusan posted at the bottom of the 1st page, native Finnish fertility rate is 1.16 (Finland has statistics on native fertility rate unlike other European countries)
    East Asian fertility rate is not 1 / woman. Japan is 1.3 and China is 1.2

    South Korea and Taiwan fertility rate are lower than Japan and China, but they are small countries with small populations, over 95% of East Asian population is in China+Japan.

    Spain and Italy fertility rate are the same as Japan/China, but Spain and Italy have decent amount of immigrants, while Japan/China have very low % of immigrants. This means native Spanish and Italian fertility rate are even lower than Chinese/Japanese fertility.

    Germany, UK, France, Switzerland, Netherlands, Sweden etc, have higher fertility rate than Italy/Spain but Germany, UK etc also have higher % of immigrants than Italy/Spain...

    My conclusion is: native W. Euro fertility is not really different than East Asian.
    Last edited by Universe; 01-14-2024 at 10:52 AM.

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    Czechia did beat his immigration record by a landslide in 2021, 350k and +500%.

    Covid did bump the rate because people were borred so they fucked but that's not it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
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    In this map, all of Central Asia seems above replacement rate and I wonder the reason why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    I doubt. East asian birth rate is lower than 1 in general, average european is 1,4. Migrants dont contribute 50% more birth rate to Europe. Is bullshit.
    Yes, it is above 1.0 just a bit, but still, it is very below the replacement rate. Korea is below 1.0 with 0.8.

    China 1.2
    Japan 1.3
    Korea 0.8
    Singapore 1.1

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...N?locations=Z4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    I said western European, not European.

    Read what Dusan posted at the bottom of the 1st page, native Finnish fertility rate is 1.16 (Finland has statistics on native fertility rate unlike other European countries)
    East Asian fertility rate is not 1 / woman. Japan is 1.3 and China is 1.2

    South Korea and Taiwan fertility rate are lower than Japan and China, but they are small countries with small populations, over 95% of East Asian population is in China+Japan.

    Spain and Italy fertility rate are the same as Japan/China, but Spain and Italy have decent amount of immigrants, while Japan/China have very low % of immigrants. This means native Spanish and Italian fertility rate are even lower than Chinese/Japanese fertility.

    Germany, UK, France, Switzerland, Netherlands, Sweden etc, have higher fertility rate than Italy/Spain but Germany, UK etc also have higher % of immigrants than Italy/Spain...

    My conclusion is: native W. Euro fertility is not really different than East Asian.
    East Asian fertility is a bit worse than W. Euro fertility imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kessaras View Post
    Yes, it is above 1.0 just a bit, but still, it is very above the replacement rate. Korea is below 1.0 with 0.8.

    China 1.2
    Japan 1.3
    Korea 0.8
    Singapore 1.1

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...N?locations=Z4
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    Istanbul, Izmir and Ankara on Japanese level.
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    60.4 Slavic: RUS_Sunghir_MA
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    Quote Originally Posted by kessaras View Post
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    In this map, all of Central Asia seems above replacement rate and I wonder the reason why.
    Map is false, check my post on page 1 of this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Did you see this map?



    Istanbul, Izmir and Ankara on Japanese level.
    I believe overall Turkish fertility rate is around 1.5. Those cities with high fertility rates are full of Kurdish and Syrian population.

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