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    I can simplify it for people. This is what it's like so far, roughly speaking. So far, nothing has changed this view much.


    Iron age Picts = 100% Bronze age Britain.
    Iron age Britons = 50% Bronze age Britain + 50% Continental Celtic.

    Patterson, N. et al. (2022) Large-scale migration into Britain during the. Middle to Late Bronze Age

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    I can simplify it for people. This is what it's like so far, roughly speaking. So far, nothing has changed this view much.


    Iron age Picts = 100% Bronze age Britain.
    Iron age Britons = 50% Bronze age Britain + 50% Continental Celtic.

    Patterson, N. et al. (2022) Large-scale migration into Britain during the. Middle to Late Bronze Age
    I really wonder what Bronze Age Britain was speaking. Most likely Something Indo-European, I reckon.

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    So there really is such a thing as a true Scotsman.

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    Picts from Orkney to Fife
    Saxons England to Viking Orkney.

    I circled it to make it easier.


    Study Published: April 27, 2023
    https://journals.plos.org/plosgeneti...l.pgen.1010360



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    So, the bottom line is that the Picts match Cumbrian English, Western Scottish, Welsh, and Northern Irish. I guess that makes me a Pict.

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    Thanks Sandra Sully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    I can simplify it for people. This is what it's like so far, roughly speaking. So far, nothing has changed this view much.


    Iron age Picts = 100% Bronze age Britain.
    Iron age Britons = 50% Bronze age Britain + 50% Continental Celtic.

    Patterson, N. et al. (2022) Large-scale migration into Britain during the. Middle to Late Bronze Age
    Picts 100% Bronze Age British? Check Mid Bronze Age British samples vs Pictish samples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic View Post
    So, the bottom line is that the Picts match Cumbrian English, Western Scottish, Welsh, and Northern Irish. I guess that makes me a Pict.
    I always pictured you painting yourself blue and running around Ohio naked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    I always pictured you painting yourself blue and running around Ohio naked.
    Ha, beat me to making a similar comment. I’m also amused imagining a Pict running around shouting with a Rust Belt accent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Picts 100% Bronze Age British? Check Mid Bronze Age British samples vs Pictish samples.
    Everything is standard error and confidence intervals. 100% is always an exaggeration, but i kept it simple.


    " There is no statistically significant change in Scotland".
    Between 1000–875 BCE, EEF ancestry increased in southern Britain (England and Wales) but not northern Britain (Scotland) due to incorporation of migrants who arrived at this time and over previous centuries, and who were genetically most similar to ancient individuals from France. These migrants contributed about half the ancestry of Iron Age people of England and Wales, thereby creating a plausible vector for the spread of early Celtic languages into Britain.

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