AFC Asian cup 2023 West Asia Squads

[Avicenna]

Average faces for all 4

Afghan average ( based on 53 cricketers)



Seems that Iranians and Afghans are more robust than their levantine counterparts who are more gracile. The Iranian and Afghan average also look very similar to each other whilst the Syrian, Lebanese and Palestinian averages look quite similar.

[Negah]

He's from northeast Syria, could be ( not confirmed ) either Assyrian or Kurdish, which explains the robust iranid look

Fahd Youssef is Assyrian and not Kurdish.

Out of curiosity Why would Assyrians have a robust Iranid look?

[Avicenna]

Fahd Youssef is Assyrian and not Kurdish.

Out of curiosity Why would Assyrians have a robust Iranid look?

Living in close proximity with Kurds and Iranic people, they also lack Arab admxiture which could mean they are more closer to the original inhabitants of Mesopatamia who coincidentally, the ancient Persians and Medes were also closely linked with .

[Negah]

Living in close proximity with Kurds and Iranic people, they also lack Arab admxiture which could mean they are more closer to the original inhabitants of Mesopatamia who coincidentally, the ancient Persians and Medes were also closely linked with .

Is that based on the recent studies that you have, and if so, please do share? I know that Assyrians are Northern Mesopotamians and Semitic and have genetic similarities to Iraqi Jews.

[Avicenna]

Is that based on the recent studies that you have, and if so, please do share? I know that Assyrians are Northern Mesopotamians and Semitic and have genetic similarities to Iraqi Jews.

Nope it's just my conclusion based on relative perception which could be entirely false.

[Negah]

The Lebanese team confirm a thought I've had: the Lebanese whiteness is totally overrated. And even in the Syrian squad I only see two that could pass in Southern Europe. Iranians are way closer to a European look.

From my experience, compared to their Syrian counterparts, Lebanese people are less diversified and show less range of variety, with many groups in the country being highly inbred and homogenous. Endogomy of various kinds has been practiced by the majority of groups. Nonetheless, the darker Syrians may be darker, and the lighter Syrians may be lighter than Lebanese. Syrians have a wider diversity.

[Negah]

Lebanese and Syrians look much more European passing while Iranians and Palestinians are notably more exotic and just look brown

Although Levantines do have lighter skin than Iranians, I believe this distinction is exaggerated. Collectively, all four groups have a strikingly Middle Eastern appearance and would be noticeable in any region of Europe. To be honest, a few Syrian players stand out as the darkest players in the set, and a few Lebanese players appear to be darker than any Iranian player. Additionally, only one Lebanese player has light eyes, compared to four or five Iranian players. Therefore, I am not sure how you came to the conclusion that much more. Plus, Palestinians share a high percentage of overlap with Syrians and Lebanese. However, Gazaians tend to be darker than many Levantine groups.

[chinshen]

Is that based on the recent studies that you have, and if so, please do share? I know that Assyrians are Northern Mesopotamians and Semitic and have genetic similarities to Iraqi Jews.

Aren't you mixing language family with genetics here?
Populations can change their spoken language which has happened in some instances to many ethnic groups, but their genes stay the same.

[Avicenna]

Although Levantines do have lighter skin than Iranians, I believe this distinction is exaggerated. Collectively, all four groups have a strikingly Middle Eastern appearance and would be noticeable in any region of Europe. To be honest, a few Syrian players stand out as the darkest players in the set, and a few Lebanese players appear to be darker than any Iranian player. Additionally, only one Lebanese player has light eyes, compared to four or five Iranian players. Therefore, I am not sure how you came to the conclusion that much more. Plus, Palestinians share a high percentage of overlap with Syrians and Lebanese. However, Gazaians tend to be darker than many Levantine groups.

I don't think levantines are any lighter than iranians in terms of skin tone. People need to start critical thinking a little more before they compare a massive region of Iran with a much smaller area of Levant . Most Iranians inhabit the north/central/west plains not the south where the majority of the darker skinned Iranians are from. They also have different origins from their northern counterparts just like levantines differ from Guif Arabs.

Gazans right now include many Palestinian refugees from other regions of Palestine, so we don't know who is a native Gazan and who is a refugee. I don't think they would differ much, for instance Omar Suleiman is not Gazan yet he looks Egyptian

[Avicenna]

From my experience, compared to their Syrian counterparts, Lebanese people are less diversified and show less range of variety, with many groups in the country being highly inbred and homogenous. Endogomy of various kinds has been practiced by the majority of groups. Nonetheless, the darker Syrians may be darker, and the lighter Syrians may be lighter than Lebanese. Syrians have a wider diversity.

Yep exactly what I said before. I also suspect levantines have practiced more selective breeding for lighter skin than Iranians, as usually out of the married couples it usually always the woman who is lighter than the dark husband.