Do you believe that non engineer politicians should be allowed to make law related to tech?

[Your Old Comrade]

I can't support the idiot that pretends better (in case of politics). I can't pick lesser evil over greater evil. Evil is evil and should be gone.

Cool story. But no real ideas. Something tells me that you won't be here for very long.

[Victor]

Well, for once to stop degenerate thieves that already broke billions of lives (lawyers and economists) to break/destroy few billion more.
Economists and lawyers don't have religious/philosophical base as well. Unless you consider self-idolizing in case of lawyers, and money-idolizing in case of economists. They don't care for average citizen of their country.

Why would technocrats care about the average citizen? Is it some default trait of engineers and technocrats? I often find this kind of people to be quite cynic and selfish, not by some malicious intent but by general mentality.

An evil technocrat may make evil things and methods much more effective than an evil non-technocrat (and he will use the service of a technocrat for it). Whole progress leaded not just to useful and positive things, but to other level of destruction, violence, opression and its methods.

[Incal]

Thing is, politicians don't have to be geniuses or have a stack of diplomas... they just have to be good, decent people but nowadays you'll hardly find one.

[Smitty]

What do you mean devilish if every politican would be from a technological background?

I mean the tricks they'd be able to pull on an unsuspecting populace and collaboration with those in the tech industry. Just look at what the social media companies do already. The last thing we need is a government that altogether know more than the people they govern. How would you begin to hold them accountable?

[rajputprincess]

Still waiting to hear about great leaders with STEM background. LOL

China president xi have chemical engineering degree
I don't think that degree in stem for politician are rare at all especially in Asian countries.
Because studying stem is quite common in Asia
Like 40% to 50% graduate in China are in science. Which is like 18% in USA. So higher chance of engineer in politics.

I don't believe that engineer would be best suited to make law related to medicine Or economic either. You need to understand something if you want to make law

I mean i see some of the question senator in American ask these tech CEO's. It is obvious that they don't
understand technology at all. It is not even about background in engineering. It is also their age.

Extremely incompetent politicians in America
American elite used to be very competent.

They don't have used technology

[rajputprincess]

I mean the tricks they'd be able to pull on an unsuspecting populace and collaboration with those in the tech industry. Just look at what the social media companies do already. The last thing we need is a government that altogether know more than the people they govern. How would you begin to hold them accountable?

Basically you want incomplete politicians?

[Insuperable]

I think Taiwan success has more to do with their general high level and IQ than engineering leadership. Taiwanese are descendants of "white" anti-communist Han Chinese so people with higher level than was average in China. I met some Taiwanese people and they were very impressive.

Taiwan success has to do with both IQ and engineering leadership. Just read about its history in the last 50 years. If it's about their high IQ then why did they focus to engineering leadership?

Still waiting to hear about great leaders with STEM background. LOL

Angela Merkel was a good leader for many years before blewing it with immigration crisis.

I agree. A good cabinet is based of lawyers, judges, histiorians, trade unionists (often have a legal background) and philosophers. Supported by people with knowledge in the respective fields.

Yes. Your average engineer would say you don't need philosophers because they usually don't understand every nation needs much more than high tech - it needs ideas, strong culture and identity. People with business and economy backgounds are also welcome as this are very wide fields and include human relations and organisation.

I would never say we don't need engineers and scientists - ofc we do and they can serve well in their expert capacity.

Neither would I say that we don't need lawyers, managers etc. I am not that narrow minded. And I am very much for philosophy. Science, engineering and philosophy.
But in the 21th century lawyers, managers etc should be on sidelines and not in leadership.

[Scarface F]

What's the motivation for technocrats (as leaders) except of their narrow minded sphere? They lack any kind of ideology, they don't have religious/philosophical base for their actions, they can be just part of the process, but not the conductors. High tech is needed for something and someone, not for itself like some kind of idol.

I noticed many of so called STEM experts have Messianic complex these days and think world resolves around them. Basically they are legitimately delusional about self-importance and think they are better than anyone else especially with media putting STEM on pedestal and promoting it as some kind of own end goal for everyone despite small percentage of population is really suited for these jobs and technology should serve society and not the opposite.

[Scarface F]

China president xi have chemical engineering degree
I don't think that degree in stem for politician are rare at all especially in Asian countries.
Because studying stem is quite common in Asia
Like 40% to 50% graduate in China are in science. Which is like 18% in USA. So higher chance of engineer in politics.

That's because China promotes it wanting to catch up technologically with the west.

I don't believe that engineer would be best suited to make law related to medicine Or economic either. You need to understand something if you want to make law

You still don't get politicans have teams of experts around themselves and they don't need to know the details of how things work nor can they know it. What they do need is a clear vision and ideological foundation with excellent menagerial skills.

I mean i see some of the question senator in American ask these tech CEO's. It is obvious that they don't
understand technology at all. It is not even about background in engineering. It is also their age.

Extremely incompetent politicians in America
American elite used to be very competent.

They don't have used technology

It's more to do with decline of American Empire and west in general, lowering of quality of education, woke and cultural marxism takeover of academia and policies like affirmative section where real talent is discriminated to make room for "disadvanteaged minorities".

[rajputprincess]

I noticed many of so called STEM experts have Messianic complex these days and think world resolves around them. Basically they are legitimately delusional about self-importance and think they are better than anyone else especially with media putting STEM on pedestal and promoting it as some kind of own end goal for everyone despite small percentage of population is really suited for these jobs and technology should serve society and not the opposite.

I mean you yourself were insulting stem graduate. Like they're all nerds.

It is more of a stereotypes in Western countries tbh. Watch shows from Asian countries. Women in Asia like engineer. I think in general they like intelligence more in men . Engineer being nerd is not stereotypes in all countries

I mean most tech companies CEO's are engineer. And they're biggest. Engineer definitely have leadership qualities.

I mean i believe you need to understand something before making law. Like I would expect people with military background to make law related to military. Someone who don't even know how to use gun shouldn't .

A very rounded cabinet have economist scientist engineer lawyer doctor pharmacist veteran etc.

And really politicians with stem degree are common in many Asian countries. Because of higher percentage of people with stem background.
I mean reason why they're not many politicians with stem degree in USA. Is because of low percent of people with stem degree

Really that's what is it about