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    Quote Originally Posted by sacha View Post
    Target: Sacha_scaled
    Distance: 3.0023% / 0.03002268
    93.0 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    6.8 HUN_Tiszapolgar_ECA
    0.2 RUS_Karasuk_o

    Target: Sacha_scaled
    Distance: 3.0040% / 0.03003977 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    93.4 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    6.6 HUN_Tiszapolgar_ECA

    AGGR OFF:
    Target: Sacha_scaled
    Distance: 3.0023% / 0.03002268
    30.2 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR38
    27.4 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
    25.2 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR70
    10.2 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR66
    6.8 HUN_Tiszapolgar_ECA:I2395
    0.2 RUS_Karasuk_o:RISE497

    Looking into the ITA_Rome_Imperial samples, it is about what you would expect:
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    Distances:
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    I will add these to make it K25.

    Levant_JOR_EBA:I1705,0.081953,0.146236,-0.056568,-0.113697,-0.008001,-0.046296,-0.010575,-0.007384,0.030883,0.004556,0.016401,-0.020532,0.040287,-0.001651,-0.003393,0.030496,0.009127,0.007095,-0.004022,0.017884,0.003369,0.009769,0.000616,0.006 507,-0.013891
    Levant_JOR_EBA:I1706,0.071709,0.139128,-0.062225,-0.111113,-0.008001,-0.043507,-0.011751,-0.015692,0.041723,0.009476,0.013316,-0.019782,0.049653,-0.00523,0.000814,0.028639,-0.000522,-0.00038,-0.001131,0.020135,0.006364,0.012489,-0.00419,0.003133,-0.002036
    Levant_JOR_EBA:I1730,0.073985,0.158423,-0.061094,-0.11725,-0.000923,-0.053268,-0.01034,-0.016845,0.028429,0.008565,0.017538,-0.018733,0.034638,0.004266,-0.006786,0.009546,-0.003129,-0.003674,-0.004022,0.013256,0.00549,0.01286,-0.008011,0.003133,-0.005389
    Levant_ISR_C:I0644,0.087644,0.161469,-0.035449,-0.132108,0.023081,-0.055499,-0.013161,-0.009,0.059516,0.034625,0.014128,-0.016335,0.0278,0.004817,-0.019544,0.010077,-0.000261,0.009628,0.004399,0.006753,-0.004492,0.01014,-0.007272,-0.007953,-0.006107
    Levant_ISR_C:I1152,0.087644,0.166547,-0.052797,-0.134046,0.016311,-0.069165,-0.010105,-0.011307,0.05379,0.030616,0.017863,-0.016485,0.028097,0.009496,-0.013436,0.003713,-0.000652,0,-0.004148,-0.002501,0.005615,0.013849,-0.009737,0.003494,-0.008263
    Levant_ISR_C:I1155,0.092197,0.169593,-0.056191,-0.125971,0.024928,-0.068886,-0.012691,-0.016384,0.050313,0.033167,0.012504,-0.023229,0.024678,-0.008945,-0.014929,0.007558,0.012256,0.007728,-0.001131,-0.004002,-0.000873,0.001855,0.008627,-0.005181,-0.003712
    Levant_ISR_C:I1160,0.092197,0.173656,-0.047517,-0.144059,0.017849,-0.058846,-0.00611,-0.013153,0.047654,0.032802,0.021273,-0.018583,0.032408,0.002064,-0.012622,-0.002652,0.00013,0.010895,0.00352,0.013381,0.01073 1,0.005564,-0.005546,-0.003253,-0.00012
    Levant_ISR_C:I1164,0.086506,0.174671,-0.053174,-0.137922,0.009232,-0.063587,-0.014806,-0.009692,0.054608,0.036629,0.018512,-0.020382,0.032705,0.006055,-0.012893,0.006497,-0.000522,0.003041,-0.006536,0.030139,0.006738,-0.004699,-0.012078,-0.010604,-0.005029
    Levant_ISR_C:I1165,0.083091,0.165531,-0.056568,-0.132431,0.005847,-0.064982,-0.015276,-0.006692,0.059721,0.023508,0.007307,-0.012289,0.041922,0.015138,-0.015201,0.005436,-0.025425,0.001267,0.006159,0.019134,-0.004492,0.01051,0.001849,-0.006145,-0.002275
    Levant_ISR_C:I1168,0.088782,0.167562,-0.04978,-0.132108,0.008001,-0.06275,-0.0094,-0.010615,0.041314,0.024602,0.015589,-0.013788,0.030921,0.00289,-0.011129,0.005967,0.007953,0.007221,0.003771,0.011 13,0.006114,0.018424,-0.008381,-0.009158,-0.011855
    Levant_ISR_C:I1169,0.083091,0.171624,-0.036581,-0.134369,0.013541,-0.059683,-0.00799,-0.009692,0.053176,0.03262,0.013478,-0.013938,0.030773,0.001101,-0.016422,-0.009149,-0.018254,0.005574,0.005908,0.007253,0.005241,0.005 07,-0.006655,0.000482,-0.003353
    Levant_ISR_C:I1170,0.087644,0.165531,-0.047517,-0.141475,0.00954,-0.066097,-0.014806,-0.013615,0.047859,0.035354,0.014777,-0.012589,0.039841,0.007982,-0.02443,0.003978,0.001956,0.004687,0.004274,0.0117 56,-0.006863,0.013973,-0.003574,-0.000241,-0.002395
    Levant_ISR_C:I1171,0.085367,0.164516,-0.046763,-0.129847,0.008617,-0.056615,-0.015981,-0.008307,0.053994,0.03827,0.007632,-0.017834,0.036125,0.006606,-0.008686,-0.004508,-0.015385,0.0019,0.008547,0.006378,0.001497,0.01335 4,0.000863,0.005663,0.002754
    Levant_ISR_C:I1172,0.095611,0.159438,-0.036581,-0.132754,0.013541,-0.068607,-0.008225,-0.008077,0.059107,0.030798,0.006333,-0.020532,0.031962,0.005918,-0.004343,-0.005967,-0.004563,-0.000633,0.014581,0.011005,-0.003119,-0.007419,0.009983,-0.006145,0
    Levant_ISR_C:I1177,0.093335,0.171624,-0.033187,-0.139214,0.020619,-0.061635,-0.023031,-0.006461,0.052563,0.028611,0.031666,-0.014837,0.04103,0.012386,-0.018051,-0.009679,-0.016559,0.012415,0.005531,-0.011506,-0.006239,0.006059,0.005053,0.008676,-0.005149
    Levant_ISR_C:I1178,0.09675,0.168578,-0.043369,-0.137922,0.016618,-0.061914,-0.018566,-0.014538,0.054812,0.033349,0.016726,-0.011839,0.034043,0.005643,-0.021715,0.005569,0.002347,0.003801,0.003771,0.010 88,0.000998,0.015333,-0.001232,0.000964,-0.000359
    Levant_ISR_C:I1179,0.08992,0.161469,-0.050534,-0.137276,0.017542,-0.065539,-0.010105,-0.007384,0.055017,0.033531,0.015589,-0.013038,0.027948,-0.002202,-0.018729,0.007027,0.001304,-0.003801,0.004022,0.001751,0.007237,0.009027,-0.002095,-0.006868,0.002754
    Levant_ISR_C:I1181,0.086506,0.171624,-0.039975,-0.134692,0.018157,-0.059404,-0.00376,-0.017307,0.052767,0.035354,0.015265,-0.02203,0.039395,0.010046,-0.02253,0.015911,-0.008736,0.008742,0.006662,0.018884,0.011729,0.020 032,-0.000246,-0.003735,-0.010418
    Levant_ISR_C:I1182,0.088782,0.161469,-0.054305,-0.141798,0.023389,-0.064145,-0.011751,-0.014999,0.056653,0.031709,0.012342,-0.013338,0.037165,0.007019,-0.017101,-0.000796,0.005867,0,0.009679,0.015007,-0.001123,-0.000247,0.001972,-0.009519,-0.003712
    Levant_ISR_C:I1183,0.087644,0.171624,-0.04714,-0.134692,0.024928,-0.062472,-0.015276,-0.011538,0.050517,0.042643,0.014777,-0.01109,0.036719,-0.010735,-0.011265,0.009679,0.007302,0.001647,-0.010056,0.005127,0.001248,0.012489,-0.00037,0.005422,-0.010538
    Levant_ISR_C:I1184,0.09675,0.155376,-0.058454,-0.129524,0.016926,-0.063308,-0.012221,-0.01523,0.05379,0.039727,0.008282,-0.014837,0.024083,0.008395,-0.014658,-0.005967,-0.02021,-0.000127,0.008673,0.005378,0.001248,0.005812,-0.010476,0.000482,0.001557
    Levant_ISR_C:I1187,0.075123,0.164516,-0.042615,-0.136953,0.011079,-0.049921,-0.005405,-0.011538,0.048063,0.053031,0.012666,-0.007343,0.031219,0.003165,-0.016694,0.012994,0.009648,0.003547,-0.001257,0.014632,0.0141,0.015209,-0.012448,0.006145,-0.008981
    IRN_Seh_Gabi_C:I1661,0.084229,0.11577,-0.114268,-0.042313,-0.074475,-0.010877,0.00705,-0.011538,-0.054812,-0.021139,0.004872,0.000749,-0.005352,-0.00289,0.007465,0.026651,0.017211,0.000633,0.0076 68,-0.016883,0.006489,-0.010016,-0.005546,-0.022051,0.006107
    IRN_Seh_Gabi_C:I1662,0.078538,0.126941,-0.113136,-0.05491,-0.06432,-0.006136,0.00564,-0.005769,-0.054199,-0.016583,-0.001624,-0.001798,0.002676,-0.001651,-0.00285,0.014054,-0.022296,0.004561,0.003771,-0.017258,0.002121,-0.010758,-0.003574,-0.01928,0.007903
    IRN_Seh_Gabi_C:I1665,0.078538,0.121864,-0.103708,-0.068153,-0.063089,-0.016455,0.00329,-0.00923,-0.043768,-0.009476,0.009419,-0.003297,0.004906,0.002202,-0.004614,0.019358,0.004694,0.002534,0.014832,-0.017383,0.013351,-0.013849,-0.003574,-0.018316,0.007305
    IRN_Seh_Gabi_C:I1670,0.076261,0.107646,-0.087869,-0.048773,-0.070167,-0.009482,0.00611,-0.004615,-0.035383,-0.024237,0.002436,0.001649,-0.015163,0.000138,0.014929,0.009679,-0.012517,0.01761,0.006536,0.002751,0.009234,0.0149 62,0.008011,-0.004217,0.001317
    IRN_Seh_Gabi_C:I1674,0.081953,0.120848,-0.1022,-0.057171,-0.063704,-0.019522,0.005405,-0.011999,-0.050926,-0.012939,-0.002761,0.005245,0.005798,-0.003578,0.002172,0.01538,-0.001434,-0.002027,0.008296,-0.024637,0.004118,-0.009274,-0.002958,-0.017352,0.013651
    IRN_Seh_Gabi_LN:I1671,0.05122,0.081242,-0.153488,-0.021964,-0.101865,0.006414,0.014336,0.003231,-0.068925,-0.045559,0,0.00045,0.012636,-0.008533,0.02348,0.059665,0.001956,0.008615,0.0082 96,-0.034266,0.012478,-0.020897,-0.00456,-0.024823,0.01916

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    Target: Julkka_scaled
    Distance: 2.0024% / 0.02002441
    36.2 Saami
    24.6 Estonia_BA.SG
    18.6 Finland_Levanluhta_B
    9.6 Russia_MBA_Poltavka_oEEF
    5.6 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    2.8 Germany_Blatterhohle_MN_oWHG
    2.4 DEU_LBK_KD
    0.2 Finland_Levanluhta

    Target: Julkka_scaled
    Distance: 2.0926% / 0.02092596 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    38.2 Saami
    21.0 Finland_Levanluhta_B
    17.4 Estonia_BA.SG
    9.4 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    8.6 Russia_IA_Ingria.SG
    5.4 Russia_MBA_Poltavka_oEEF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julkka View Post
    Target: Julkka_scaled
    Distance: 2.0024% / 0.02002441
    36.2 Saami
    24.6 Estonia_BA.SG
    18.6 Finland_Levanluhta_B
    9.6 Russia_MBA_Poltavka_oEEF
    5.6 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    2.8 Germany_Blatterhohle_MN_oWHG
    2.4 DEU_LBK_KD
    0.2 Finland_Levanluhta

    Target: Julkka_scaled
    Distance: 2.0926% / 0.02092596 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    38.2 Saami
    21.0 Finland_Levanluhta_B
    17.4 Estonia_BA.SG
    9.4 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    8.6 Russia_IA_Ingria.SG
    5.4 Russia_MBA_Poltavka_oEEF


    Most Saami on the forum? Dayum.

    The Russia 8 sims for my centromeres gives me most Saami, I think, on this calc:


    Target: CENTROMERES.LCR.RUSSIA8.MRG.BRAD
    Distance: 15.4095% / 0.15409533 | ADC: 0.25x RC

    53.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0429
    17.6 Saami:saami9
    11.0 Estonia_BA.SG:s19_V16_1_noUDG.SG
    9.2 Russia_IA_Ingria.SG:s19_VIII5_2_noUDG.SG
    6.2 Russia_Khvalynsk_Eneolithic:I0433
    2.8 Estonia_BA.SG:s19_X15_2_noUDG.SG

    my K13 Centromeres gives me most Finland on this calc at 2x

    Target: CENTROMERES.K13.MRG.BRAD
    Distance: 6.1614% / 0.06161359 | ADC: 2x RC

    59.4 KAZ_Kairan_MLBA:I4318
    40.6 Finland_Levanluhta_B:JK2065_noUDG
    Last edited by ScandinavianCelt; 02-04-2024 at 02:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    Do you use 23andMe data? Looks somewhat like my 23andMe. We share a lot of groups and in somewhat similar proportions.
    Yeah my 23andMe coords appear more accurate than my AncestryDNA ones.
    Anglo Saxon + Frank (4.336)
    Viking Danish + Frank (4.338)
    Gael + Frank (4.39)
    Anglo Saxon (4.393)
    Viking Danish + Anglo Saxon (4.568)

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    @Rædwald -- see how similar?

    23andMe


    Target: Brad_23andMe_scaled
    Distance: 1.7866% / 0.01786627

    29.0 KAZ_Kairan_MLBA
    23.8 Russia_MBA_Poltavka
    18.4 Finland_Levanluhta_B
    11.4 DEU_LBK_KD
    9.0 Scotland_N_mediumlowEEF
    5.0 Iberia_N
    3.2 Russia_IA_Ingria.SG
    0.2 Hun_Tian_Shan_o[/QUOTE]

    Quote Originally Posted by Rædwald View Post
    Target: Rædwald
    Distance: 1.2269% / 0.01226857
    25.6 KAZ_Kairan_MLBA
    18.8 Russia_MBA_Poltavka
    17.6 Finland_Levanluhta_B
    9.8 Iberia_N
    7.8 DEU_LBK_KD
    5.6 Scotland_N
    4.2 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    4.0 Russia_IA_Ingria.SG
    3.2 Scotland_N_mediumlowEEF
    1.4 Scotland_N_lowEEF
    1.2 Hun_Tian_Shan_o
    0.6 Spain_SE_Iberia_CA
    0.2 Estonia_MN_CCC_2
    My Kairan piece has Python result of this:

    Icelandic 65.408%
    Lithuanian_PZ 19.080%
    Kubachinian 9.305%
    Ror 4.226%
    Kalash 1.489%
    Karitiana 0.492%


    Fit error: 0.03532638456714052

    sample: KAZ_Kairan_MLBA:I4568,0.126344,0.126941,0.056568,0 .072352,0.017234,0.033746,0.00282,-0.004846,-0.004295,-0.023326,-0.01023,-0.00015,0.003865,-0.016239,0.019137,-0.000796,-0.019427,-0.001014,0.004525,0.008004,-0.000125,0.006306,0.01023,0.011568,-0.006227


    I'm quite sure they came through Icelandic vikings as they plot in NW Europe map on top of Norway N Vikings and 2 diff Swedish Vikings.

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    Target: Kenshiro_scaled
    Distance: 1.2759% / 0.01275889 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    37.0 GRC_Mycenaean
    26.6 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    8.0 ARM_Lchashen_LBA
    7.8 Estonia_BA.SG
    7.8 GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA
    7.4 KAZ_Kairan_MLBA
    5.4 RUS_Altai_IA

    Target: Kenshiro_scaled
    Distance: 1.0525% / 0.01052548
    19.0 GRC_Mycenaean
    12.8 GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA
    12.6 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    12.0 ARM_Lchashen_LBA
    12.0 ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N
    10.2 Russia_Khvalynsk_Eneolithic
    6.0 Estonia_BA.SG
    5.4 TUR_Boncuklu_N
    3.2 GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA
    3.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    2.2 Scotland_N
    1.4 RUS_Altai_IA
    Without Roman Imperial
    Target: Kenshiro_scaled
    Distance: 1.7739% / 0.01773864 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    34.0 GRC_Mycenaean
    27.0 GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA
    23.4 KAZ_Kairan_MLBA
    11.0 ARM_Lchashen_LBA
    4.6 GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA

    Target: Kenshiro_scaled
    Distance: 1.4111% / 0.01411145 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    35.8 GRC_Mycenaean
    27.0 GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA
    10.0 Estonia_BA.SG
    10.0 ARM_Lchashen_LBA
    7.6 KAZ_Kairan_MLBA
    5.0 GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA
    4.4 Hun_Tian_Shan
    0.2 TJK_Ksirov_H_Kushan

    Target: Kenshiro_scaled
    Distance: 1.2318% / 0.01231845 | R5P
    37.4 GRC_Mycenaean
    32.6 GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA
    11.8 ARM_Lchashen_LBA
    10.6 Russia_Khvalynsk_Eneolithic
    7.6 Estonia_BA.SG
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 02-04-2024 at 07:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    Diverse!
    Indeed.
    And this is rarely and very good that I got such a close distance below 1, even in 0.25x RC
    🔴
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    Target: Dušan_scaled
    Distance: 1.7521% / 0.01752098
    60.4 Slavic: RUS_Sunghir_MA
    29.8 Roman: SRB_Svilos_Krusevlje
    9.8 Byzantine: TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz2

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    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 1.1872% / 0.01187169 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    37.2 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    32.6 KAZ_Kairan_MLBA
    26.8 Spain_SE_Iberia_CA
    3.4 ARM_Lchashen_LBA

    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 2.2964% / 0.02296386 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    92.0 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    8.0 Spain_SE_Iberia_CA

    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 4.1563% / 0.04156266 | ADC: 2x RC
    100.0 ITA_Rome_Imperial



    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 1.8213% / 0.01821334 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    49.6 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    21.6 KAZ_Kairan_MLBA
    17.8 Spain_SE_Iberia_CA
    7.2 Russia_IA_Ingria.SG
    3.8 GRC_Mycenaean

    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 2.4986% / 0.02498583 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    100.0 ITA_Rome_Imperial

    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 3.2816% / 0.03281586 | ADC: 1x RC
    100.0 ITA_Rome_Imperial



    Target: brother_scaled
    Distance: 1.3676% / 0.01367630 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    46.2 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    27.8 KAZ_Kairan_MLBA
    15.8 Spain_SE_Iberia_CA
    10.2 Scotland_N

    Target: brother_scaled
    Distance: 2.1681% / 0.02168087 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    91.4 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    8.6 Scotland_N

    Target: brother_scaled
    Distance: 2.5788% / 0.02578808 | ADC: 1x RC
    100.0 ITA_Rome_Imperial



    It is logical, my dear, it is not for nothing that we Andalusians used to have a seat in the Roman Senate, in fact two seats, another for the conventus gaditanus. Let's see, this is not a movie about Romans where Hispania is mentioned once or twice and it is as if it had been just another colony, we were Romans in our own right, it is not what is said in another forum where Roman Hispania is given an insignificant category, not beloved, Andalusians had VIP cards.

    Effective and tangible evidence:
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    Sorry, things are what they are.
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Target: MandM
    Distance: 0.0132% / 0.01318263 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    35.0 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    29.3 GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA
    24.0 Russia_IA_Ingria.SG
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    Target: paradox_scaled
    Distance: 0.0093% / 0.00928811 | ADC: 0.25x RC

    77.6 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    21.1 Estonia_BA.SG
    1.3 Ostrogothic_Crimea_ACD

    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 0.0162% / 0.01621819 | ADC: 0.25x
    RC
    59.7 ITA_Rome_Imperial
    18.3 Russia_IA_Ingria.SG
    13.9 GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA
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