‘People Begin To Realize Moscow Is Our Main Problem’

[dviz]

Ah, just like any other state. Maybe in 100 years we will have totally different map of whole World.

I think Russia is less stable than many other states. Just look at the satisfaction of its citizens - it's a bottom of the list rank.

Geography also doesn't help. All major cities in Siberia (the main economic drivers beside Moscow, and Peter to a lesser degree) are surrounded by 1000 km of nothingness. That's not conducive of great economic growth.

[Salty Ears]

"Never" is a very long time. The region where Bashkortostan is today was annexed by Russia about 300 years ago.
Previously, the area was split between various Tatar khanates.

If the current political arrangements with Russia do not work for the locals, Bashkortostan has a right to self-determination, like any other area acquired by empires.

Bashkirs became part of Russia in 1557, 300 years ago it was time of Bashkir rebellions (as answer for some politics of central power). Rebellions is quite usual thing in that times, so if it was rebellion in Moscow or St. Pete what it means? Dont spread bullshit.

[dviz]

Bashkirs became part of Russia in 1557, 300 years ago it was time of Bashkir rebellions (as answer for some politics of central power). Rebellions is quite usual thing in that times, so if it was rebellion in Moscow or St. Pete what it means? Dont spread bullshit.

The khans made promises to Russia, but the riots you mention happened when those agreements started to have consequences. So, de facto, Bashkirs lost their suzerainty 300 years ago, but if you want to count 400, be it the way you want - the point is moot anyway.

Tatars had their own statelets before Russia, and even superstates, like the Golden Horde.

[Loki]

"Never" is a very long time. The region where Bashkortostan is today was annexed by Russia about 300 years ago.
Previously, the area was split between various Tatar khanates.

If the current political arrangements with Russia do not work for the locals, Bashkortostan has a right to self-determination, like any other area acquired by empires.

Who cares about history of 300 years ago? Come on man be realistic. Many nationalities of today didn't even exist 300 years ago.

[Loki]

The khans made promises to Russia, but the riots you mention happened when those agreements started to have consequences. So, de facto, Bashkirs lost their suzerainty 300 years ago, but if you want to count 400, be it the way you want - the point is moot anyway.

Tatars had their own statelets before Russia, and even superstates, like the Golden Horde.

Who gives a shit? Why don't you campaign for the self determination of the Apaches and Comanches then, or the Hittites in Turkey for that matter? Don't be silly.

[Loki]

I think Russia is less stable than many other states. Just look at the satisfaction of its citizens - it's a bottom of the list rank.

Geography also doesn't help. All major cities in Siberia (the main economic drivers beside Moscow, and Peter to a lesser degree) are surrounded by 1000 km of nothingness. That's not conducive of great economic growth.

You simply don't know what you're talking about. Stop trolling.

[Victor]

Tatars had their own statelets before Russia, and even superstates, like the Golden Horde.

Golden Horde was not a Tatar state and modern Tatar superethnos is a late thing, they didn't have common consciousness until 20 Century. Different tribes which formed modern Tatar superethnos (based on language mainly) were the part of Golden Horde. Tatars nowadays still don't see themselves fully united, as someone who had a Europeoid Tatar girlfriend, I remember her saying that she would prefer Russian man any time, not some Mongoloid Astrakhan Tatar whom they see alien.

Tatar is a Russian term for Turkic speaking Muslim ethnic groups of Russian Empire. Azeris = Transcaucasin Tatars, Crimean Qirimli = Crimean Tatars. They never named themselves Tatars. Just like Central Russian Tatars have few different tribes.

Most of anti Russian movements in Tatarstan (they are almost totally successfully eliminated in 2010s) are not nationalist, but Islamist and have roots in 2000s when Tatar youth went to Saudi medrese religious schools. These guys are alien minded to 95% of modern Tatars and were always more linked to terrorist groups from Middle Asia, not to own people.

[Dušan]

"Never" is a very long time. The region where Bashkortostan is today was annexed by Russia about 300 years ago.
Previously, the area was split between various Tatar khanates.

If the current political arrangements with Russia do not work for the locals, Bashkortostan has a right to self-determination, like any other area acquired by empires.

It is your wishful thinkning.

Ethnic Russians are most numerous there, and if necessery, Russia can bring more ethnic Russians (from Central Asian states for example) to get percentage of Russians in Volga region even higher.

In largest city of province, Bashkirs are only 20% of population.

As of the 2021 Census, the ethnic composition of Ufa was:[38]

Ethnicity Number Percentage
Russians 557,492 48.9%
Tatars 308,381 27.0%
Bashkirs 233,128 20.4%
Others 41,618 3.6%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ufa#Demographics

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

I see im very popular in this thread

Smaland is an idiot.

Illegal immigration is obviously more an issue than a Russian politican ranting about taking back Alaska (and btw that same Russian wants Antarctica, also).

Check out my thread about it here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...TO-TAKE-ALASKA!!!

Smaland is genuinely autistic enough to think Governor of Alaska Dunleavy seriously thinking Russia will start WW3 for Alaska (oh, and Fort Ross, Cali).

It's a level of stupidity yet unseen on this forum.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Moscow destroyed our border, increased our crime, raised our prices, poisoned our people, reduced our freedoms, slandered patriotic Americans, brainwashed our children, attacked White people, ruined our culture, worshipped the perverse, caused mass riots, jailed the grandmas, censored our dissent, criminalized our rights, silenced the truth, reversed the genders, defamed the righteous, jabbed the babies, masked the children, ruined public schools, locked down communities, impoverished our entrepreneurs, spied on parents, pulled false flags, and you can add your own "main problems". I agree wholeheartedly with Smaland if, by Moscow, he means the Biden regime.