‘People Begin To Realize Moscow Is Our Main Problem’

[Victor]

All historians in Turkey blame Timur for crippling Golden Horde. They see the main reason for the rise of Russia is the downfall of the Golden Horde.

lol, that's the way history goes, someone rises, someone falls.

[Dušan]

The problem is that now they are stripping back. Since 2017, Tatar language classes are no longer mandatory in the schools of Tatarstan. Also, Putin revoked Tatarstan's president's title.

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-tatar.../28886468.html
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/russi...-title/2635597

40% of population of region Tatarstan are ethnic Russian.
Why should they being forced to learn that language in the middle of Russia?

Would you like Kurdish to be mandatory in Turkey?

[Victor]

40% of population of region Tatarstan are ethnic Russian.
Why should they being forced to learn that language in the middle of Russia?

Would you like Kurdish to be mandatory in Turkey?

Tatar nationalism is non existent. The only real anti Russian force down there which is eliminated for now were Bosnian-like wahabbi communities raised by Saudis in early 2000s. They were heavily anti nationalist, pan islamist, living in separate villages and sympathetic towards Middle Asian Islamic radicals more than towards "tatar apostates".

The main power inside Tatarstan with own interests which became weaker now are secular clans which ruled the republic since Soviet times and they often had/have Russians, these clans are not ethnic. Just like youth gangs/mafia inside Tatarstan since 80s until 2010s were always mixed, regional, not ethnic.

The only conscious nationalists in Tatarstan which are not numerous are those who identify themselves with Bulgars, a Bulgarist movement which despises Islam and separate themselves from other Tatars like Mongoloid Astrakhan Tatars.

Mixed marriages where male is Russian and bride is Tatar always existed and now they become more and more numerous. Tatar males are very unlikely to marry Russian women at the same time, while women move to cities from rural parts, men often stay down there in village for whole life. 40% of these Tatarstan Russians are predominately urban people, so the cities is the place where Tatars become Russians. No one to blame for this, it's a free choice.

[Dušan]

Tatar nationalism is non existent. The only real anti Russian force down there which is eliminated for now were Bosnian-like wahabbi communities raised by Saudis in early 2000s. They were heavily anti nationalist, pan islamist, living in separate villages and sympathetic towards Middle Asian Islamic radicals more than towards "tatar apostates".

The main power inside Tatarstan with own interests which became weaker now are secular clans which ruled the republic since Soviet times and they often had/have Russians, these clans are not ethnic. Just like youth gangs/mafia inside Tatarstan since 80s until 2010s were always mixed, regional, not ethnic.

The only conscious nationalists in Tatarstan which are not numerous are those who identify themselves with Bulgars, a Bulgarist movement which despises Islam and separate themselves from other Tatars like Mongoloid Astrakhan Tatars.

I would do a good demographic policy of immigration of Russians into these two regions.
Once Russians reach 60% it is game over for any separatist movements ever.

[Victor]

I would do a good demographic policy of immigration of Russians into these two regions.
Once Russians reach 60% it is game over for any separatist movements ever.

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[Victor]

I would do a good demographic policy of immigration of Russians into these two regions.
Once Russians reach 60% it is game over for any separatist movements ever.

Tatars are good people, they're good citizens, good soldiers, hardworking people. We're living together for centuries without any signs of treason from them. Lots of urban Tatars raised in secular or "cultural Islam" families become Orthodox Christians, too.

[Victor]

I would do a good demographic policy of immigration of Russians into these two regions.
Once Russians reach 60% it is game over for any separatist movements ever.

A Holy Martyr fr.Daniel Sysoev, whose life, sermons and works bring consciously back to Church, his father is Russian and mother is Tatar, he's famous for his mission between Tatars and other Muslims which leaded literally to hundreds of converts. He was killed in his church in November 2009 by Middle Asian Wahabi.

[Blondie]

The problem is that now they are stripping back. Since 2017, Tatar language classes are no longer mandatory in the schools of Tatarstan. Also, Putin revoked Tatarstan's president's title.

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-tatar.../28886468.html
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/russi...-title/2635597

In my opinion every ethnicity has right to autonomy, but as others also said many tatar became russian willingly. I know its exist among transylvanian hungarians too, especially among these who live in romanian majority cities, subregions. Its also true in the case of danube swabians in Hungary. This assimilation is a natural process.

[Mountaineer]

Up till this point you sounded kind of like you made some logical points but now seems like it was just probably opportunistic comment to express your in general anti Russian sentiment rather than actual real concern for any minority, as now you do the same way but on other side of the coin expressing your in general anti Hungarian sentiment.

Saying a community "has too much rights", who been in your country for 1000 years and for much longer than it was part of your country.
Why shouldn't they have rights over their historical region ...lets be honest it is not as if they are sacrificing the thousands of Romanians that were moved there in the Ceausescu days.
Its not as if they try to Govern or populate Bucharest et al.
Autonomy for Szekelyfold or stop talking about superficial virtue signalling BS for other minorities.

So exactly what rights would you suggest be granted to a relatively small minority of Hungarians that live in the middle of Transylvania? I'm all for them being treated equal to Romanians in every respect but it seems a bit ridiculous to suddenly grant them some autonomy when a place like Székely Land is poor (compared to other regions of Transylvania), underpopulated, and better off staying in Romania. Keep in mind the Romanians respectfully tolerate the attention starved authoritarian Orban who truculently mocks Romanians on his visits to Székely Land. They are already inundated with Orban's propaganda. Btw, a little update for you, Ceausescu died over 30 years ago, meanwhile Hungary is currently ruled by an authoritarian.

[Mountaineer]

Tatars are good people, they're good citizens, good soldiers, hardworking people. We're living together for centuries without any signs of treason from them. Lots of urban Tatars raised in secular or "cultural Islam" families become Orthodox Christians, too.

Tatar is the Chinese Vlach