Classify English comedian of Irish descent Kitty Flanagan

[Hellenas]

Euro-Mediterranid. Could easly pass in South Europe and France.

[Melkiirs]

Yet she IS fully Irish. Her sister is singer Enya.

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Moya Brennan has quite typical facial features and while her rather sallow skin tone is darker than most Irish it is no darker than the typical Northern Italian. Kitty Flanagan could qualify as swarthy rather than just cream/sallow/brunet-white. Very few Irish people (0.3%) have Flanagan’s complexion based on the Hooton & Dupertuis survey. Parts of Flanagan’s facial morphology make her stand out even more when she is already exceptional based on pigmentation. In the U.S. she would be assumed as mixed Southern Italian and Irish ancestry.

[Creoda]

Do you think her mother Leonie is non Anglo-Celtic looking as well?:


There could also always have been an NPE.

She looks a bit ethnic.

[Valenman]

Moya Brennan has quite typical facial features and while her rather sallow skin tone is darker than most Irish it is no darker than the typical Northern Italian. Kitty Flanagan could qualify as swarthy rather than just cream/sallow/brunet-white. Very few Irish people (0.3%) have Flanagan’s complexion based on the Hooton & Dupertuis survey. Parts of Flanagan’s facial morphology make her stand out even more when she is already exceptional based on pigmentation. In the U.S. she would be assumed as mixed Southern Italian and Irish ancestry.

That Kitty is not Swarthy, look at her other photos, she is phototype 3. Probably more common in Europe along with Phototype 2.And realize that he lives in Australia where it's almost always sunny. Even with that, his tone isn't that dark lol, it's not even a joke, it's exceptional.

[Melkiirs]

That Kitty is not Swarthy, look at her other photos, she is phototype 3. Probably more common in Europe along with Phototype 2.

Definition of swarthy is brownish tinted unexposed skin (phototype is centered around tanning ability and only correlates with skin tone). Somewhat yellowish or sallow unexposed skin is quite common in Europe overall and in no country particularly rare (even in Irish males Hooton & Dupertuis found 7.8%), but brownish is different. The average Southern Italian has brownish unexposed skin as Coon mentions. It is not so uncommon to come across a swarthy person with with an Irish surname in the Northeastern U.S. due to heavy mixing between Irish and Southern Italians (and to a lesser extent other darker groups).

I think she is darker toned than Moya Brennan who is already far from Von Luschan #3. If actually fully ethnic Irish she represents the dark end of variation.

[Creoda]

Looking at the family they are probably an urban Catholic Irish and Italian mix. Her sister is lighter but also looks odd and Italian-influenced (heavily Dinaric).

[Valenman]

Definition of swarthy is brownish tinted unexposed skin (phototype is centered around tanning ability and only correlates with skin tone). Somewhat yellowish or sallow unexposed skin is quite common in Europe overall and in no country particularly rare (even in Irish males Hooton & Dupertuis found 7.8%), but brownish is different. The average Southern Italian has brownish unexposed skin as Coon mentions. It is not so uncommon to come across a swarthy person with with an Irish surname in the Northeastern U.S. due to heavy mixing between Irish and Southern Italians (and to a lesser extent other darker groups).

I think she is darker toned than Moya Brennan who is already far from Von Luschan #3. If actually fully ethnic Irish she represents the dark end of variation.

I think she is Tanned, not her tone will be like 8% (slightly dark) of Irish people but since she lives in Astralia she looks darker, and another thing, do you have more information about other countries in Europe and study that one?
In particular Spain

[Melkiirs]

I think she is Tanned, not her tone will be like 8% (slightly dark) of Irish people but since she lives in Astralia she looks darker, and another thing, do you have more information about other countries in Europe and study that one?
In particular Spain

You are right that it is hard to know precisely her unexposed skin tone. It is just her tanned complexion that would be swarthy. I would imagine her natural tone is close to Eluned Morgan or Moya Brennan.

I know of no large scaled pigmentation survey in Spain using standard scales. Eusebio Tamagnini found 45,44% darker (Von Luschan #10-15) unexposed complexions in his survey of 11,601 Portuguese. Spaniards might only be somewhat but not drastically lighter skinned on average. Southern Italians were a bit over 50% clearly brunet to light brown unexposed skinned according to Coon although I have yet to track down the specific study referenced.

[Grace O'Malley]

Her paternal side the Flanagans came to Australia from Wexford around 1850 and settled in New South Wales. She most likely does have non-Irish ancestry as well. Her father is Australian author John Flanagan. Her mother's name is Leonie but I don't know her maiden name yet.



As Kitty's family has quite a long history in Australia it is highly unlikely that she just has Irish ancestry.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

She's Australian and I never thought she looked odd for someone of Irish descent.

More evidence women aren't funny.

This is funny:



He's Irish-American (which is obvious by looking at him).

Full blooded by the grace of God.