Rate Kiwi rugby players Sonny Bill Williams and Ma'a Nonu

[Odelia]

I'm talking about muscularity, which is not necessarily the same thing (though certainly strongly linked) to masculinity. Even among their sportsmen, you will seldom find Southern Europeans (or MENAs, Asians or Amerindians) with a physique like James Haskell or Harry Aikines, regardless of whether you find either of them facially attractive or not. (I very much do).

Ahhh my bad, I misread muscly for masculine. Eastern meds can be pretty muscly too. Only difference than northern euros is they're generally shorter. You're wrong, many MENAs (discounting asians and amerindians) can be fucking huge. Caucasus men are very robust.

Here's your james haskell:



Here's some muscular MENA guys:




Both northern euros and MENAs (maybe not italians) can be equally huge and buff when they work out! Near easterners also have caucasian input, and caucasus dudes can be pretty robust. I do agree that amerindians and asians generally cannot be very muscly.

[Tooting Carmen]

Ahhh my bad, I misread muscly for masculine. Eastern meds can be pretty muscly too. Only difference than northern euros is they're generally shorter. You're wrong, many MENAs (discounting asians and amerindians) can be fucking huge. Caucasus men are very robust.

Here's your james haskell:



Here's some muscular MENA guys:




Both northern euros and MENAs (maybe not italians) can be equally huge and buff when they work out! Near easterners also have caucasian input, and caucasus dudes can be pretty robust. I do agree that amerindians and asians generally cannot be very muscly.

I agree about Kavkazians, but they're an odd mix of European and Middle Eastern anyway. I don't think of Arabs or even Turks as especially muscular, cherrypicked actors and models aside. (Even Indian actors tend to be ridiculously muscular compared to the general population nowadays too).

[Odelia]

I agree about Kavkazians, but they're an odd mix of European and Middle Eastern anyway. I don't think of Arabs or even Turks as especially muscular, cherrypicked actors and models aside. (Even Indian actors tend to be ridiculously muscular compared to the general population nowadays too).

They're as cherrypicked as your rugby players - and rugby players have to be muscular and are also very muscular compared to the british population. Outside of rugby, your british white dudes are either flabby, very skinny or overweight, like most of the population really. They're very tall and so they generally look lanky to me, much like your king charles and prince harry tbh. And what Arabs are you talking about? Levantines, iraqi christians and kurds here in detroit can be pretty robust. They're usually bigger than their white American counterparts. Only difference is that they're generally shorter! Saudis and gulf arabs are by and large very skinny or very fat - odd you never see one in between! Lmao

[tropicalslavic]

I have always thought Pacific Islanders looked nice. Sometimes I do wonder how they can look the way they do if they're descended from SEA people, though. They look more like mulattoes than Asians a lot of the time.

[Tooting Carmen]

They're as cherrypicked as your rugby players - and rugby players have to be muscular and are also very muscular compared to the british population. Outside of rugby, your british white dudes are either flabby, very skinny or overweight, like most of the population really. They're very tall and so they generally look lanky to me, much like your king charles and prince harry tbh. And what Arabs are you talking about? Levantines, iraqi christians and kurds here in detroit can be pretty robust. They're usually bigger than their white American counterparts. Only difference is that they're generally shorter! Saudis and gulf arabs are by and large very skinny or very fat - odd you never see one in between! Lmao

Actually, shorties are not so rare, especially in Wales and other poorer parts of the Isles. Furthermore, while men as extreme as Haskell are obviously very much a minority, the point is that a higher percentage of Northern Euro, West African and Pasifika men are moderately to extremely muscular compared to men from most other racial groups.

[Odelia]

Neither are conventionally good looking. Their faces are rough but their physique is 100. That is my type so subjectively 8/10 for both, objectively probably 6 to most.

Is physique really that important for other girls? I thought it's a gay guy's first priority as gay porn is filled with rough muscular dudes. If their faces aren't my type, their physique will really not "up" their looks (and this is coming from someone who likes a good physique). But rating someone solely on their good build means all bets are off and we can find any buff dude attractive, like Carrot Top:



*Pukes in mouth*

Actually, shorties are not so rare, especially in Wales and other poorer parts of the Isles. Furthermore, while men as extreme as Haskell are obviously very much a minority, the point is that a higher percentage of Northern Euro, West African and Pasifika men are moderately to extremely muscular compared to men from most other racial groups.

Pacific Islanders have a lot of fat distribution in their body. Maybe this gives you the impression of muscles. West Africans are muscular in a lean tall way. But levantine/mena guys have a disposition of possessing a ''chubby-muscular'' build, similar to these dudes in black (which I rarely see among white american men, who are usually skinny fat):



Why? They're shorter, alpinized and they can easily gain both muscle and fat at same time, unlike taller bigger boned northern euros. Also armenoids and assyroids are usually thick set. Pure narrow headed Arabids are more skinnier and slender, maybe you're thinking of them. But arabids don't make up most of MENA.

[Celestia]

Is physique really that important for other girls? I thought it's a gay guy's first priority as gay porn is filled with rough muscular dudes. If their faces aren't my type, their physique will really not "up" their looks (and this is coming from someone who likes a good physique). But rating someone solely on their good build means all bets are off and we can find any buff dude attractive, like Carrot Top:



*Pukes in mouth*


Pacific Islanders have a lot of fat distribution in their body. Maybe this gives you the impression of muscles. West African are muscular in a lean tall way. But levantine/mena guys have a disposition of possessing a ''chubby-muscular'' build, similar to these dudes in black (which I rarely see among white american men, who are usually skinny fat):



Why? They're shorter, alpinized and they can easily gain both muscle and fat at same time, unlike taller bigger boned northern euros. Also armenoids and assyroids are usually thick set. Arabids are more skinnier and slender, maybe you're thinking of them. But arabids don't make up most of MENA.

Carrot Top has a narrow build plus his features are rather feminine.

The two OP posted have broad shoulders, wider build and masculine features.
Lol at the gay men comment, I guess they have good taste.

[frankhammer]

While I wouldn't say I am that much either, all the same it is at least partly compensated by the fact they tend to be the most naturally muscly men, along with Northern Euros and West Africans.

Until 30. Then they turn to fat. Hence NZ's high obesity rate.

[Odelia]

Carrot Top has a narrow build plus his features are rather feminine.

The two OP posted have broad shoulders, wider build and masculine features.
Lol at the gay men comment, I guess they have good taste.

Carrot's very bulky, but his face is gross. So he won't be attractive to me in any way, no matter how muscular he is Lol. Same goes for these men - Good build, but if the face ain't my type I won't rate them any higher than 5. Sex appeal is mostly in the face for me, but interesting to see other perspectives.

Gay guys are obsessed with such body types. Lmao. But they rarely end up with them at the end of the day. lol

[Rafael Passoni]

The first one is one of my favourite type. 10/10.