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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    Caucasoid skin colour is not always white but varies from pale, reddish - white, olive to even dark brown.
    The term White Race is not synonymous with being literally white skinned but was so named because Caucasoids are on average the fairest of the major human racial groups.

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    I think White in White Nationalist circles means what Hitler termed "Aryan", according to Hitler all pure Europeans without colored or jewish or gypsy ancestry were "Aryan". "German and related kin" so all Europeans. But once i heard he considered Iranians as Aryan too and some berbers etc. Im not sure. Its complicated.
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    In Nazi Germany, the Aryan certificate/passport (German: Ariernachweis) was a document which certified that a person was a member of the presumed Aryan race. Beginning in April 1933, it was required from all employees and officials in the public sector, including education, according to the Law for the Restoration of the Professional Civil Service. It was also a primary requirement to become a Reich citizen for those who were of German or related blood (Aryan) and wanted to become Reich citizens after the Nuremberg Laws were passed in 1935. A "Swede or an Englishman, a Frenchman or Czech, a Pole or Italian" was considered to be related, that is, "Aryan".[1][2][3]

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    I think the KKK sees it similar, this KKK man says when asked whats his problem with other races he says his problem is with everyone who is not "a aryan race"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    Caucasoid skin colour is not always white but varies from pale, reddish - white, olive to even dark brown.
    My point is the term is not RESTRICTED to Europe. Racial terms with literal color connotations make a huge mess. "White skin" should be understood as the range of light skin that Western Eurasian descended humans share. It's not all going to be British Isles pale, sure. It will range from that bright white to a tanned peachy color, but even that peachy or olive type can get quite light if not exposed to the sun. I think in most cases, light-brown skinned people can still be considered white in the taxonomic sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    Eur*pean=Anatolian MENAs mashed with Ancient northern Mongolians.

    Fix this bro, good luck.
    That doesn't make sense at all and only actually applies to Turks. Europeans are Greek/Western Anatolian (Barcin) farmers(Central Anatolians were Caucasus/MENA shifted), mostly influenced by native WHG + Eastern European nomads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    The term White Race is not synonymous with being literally white skinned but was so named because Caucasoids are on average the fairest of the major human racial groups.
    European Caucasoids (White peoples) are on average the fairest. Non - European Caucasoids are not that fair so to speak. There are plenty people in Asia especially East Asia who are just as fair or fairer. Even in the Americas, especially the Northern Americas Amerindians are just as light as Non - European Caucasoids. The term “White” is there because of those of European descent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    I think White in White Nationalist circles means what Hitler termed "Aryan", according to Hitler all pure Europeans without colored or jewish or gypsy ancestry were "Aryan". "German and related kin" so all Europeans. But once i heard he considered Iranians as Aryan too and some berbers etc. Im not sure. Its complicated.
    Any normal knows that Hitler was psychotic and abused a lot of drugs. You most of all, being of Gypsy descent, shouldn’t pay attention to what Hitler had to say. As you know, he was racist, antisemitic and anti-Gypsy. Originally Jewish and Gypsy people were a coloured people, but many over centuries intermarried and bred with Europeans (whites) and today many of them can pass for white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurafricanid View Post
    That doesn't make sense at all and only actually applies to Turks. Europeans are Greek/Western Anatolian (Barcin) farmers(Central Anatolians were Caucasus/MENA shifted), mostly influenced by native WHG + Eastern European nomads.
    Western Anatolia isnt Europe and he counts entire Anatolia as MENA so it doesnt matter western or central for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masoebu View Post
    My point is the term is not RESTRICTED to Europe. Racial terms with literal color connotations make a huge mess. "White skin" should be understood as the range of light skin that Western Eurasian descended humans share. It's not all going to be British Isles pale, sure. It will range from that bright white to a tanned peachy color, but even that peachy or olive type can get quite light if not exposed to the sun. I think in most cases, light-brown skinned people can still be considered white in the taxonomic sense.
    On the contrary, I think it should be restricted. The vast majority of people in the world, outside of Europe are not white anyway. They shouldn’t be called that as well. The native people of Europe portray the spectrum that one can find within the White race. I didn’t limit the White race to the British Isles only, that’d be foolish. Rather included the entire European continent. Other non - European Caucasoids usually vary from light brown to dark brown almost black skin tones. Calling them white for the sake of it, is foolishness and ignorance.
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