Why and from where do I get so much Nordic/Germanic in my results?

[djipon]

There's one here about 2 pages back using TA members with G25. It's not an ideal source but there are some Greek/Balkan people as well as eastern Europe.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ith-TA-members

Distance to: djipon_scaled
0.03003095 Vojnik_scaled(Macedonian)
0.03352485 Vale_scaled(Macedonian)
0.03483749 alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
0.03525361 Fellow(Moldova/Romania)_scaled
0.03769242 Vasil(Macedonian)_scaled
0.03849993 Bosniensis_scaled(Bosnia)
0.03867117 IrisSelene_scaled(Romanian/Bulgarian/Hungarian/Croatmix)
0.04077184 Martin_scaled(¾Macedonian/¼Serbian)
0.04316282 Enr1989(Italy)_scaled
0.04364654 Feiichy_Grandaunt(German/Serbo-Greek)
0.04462649 Imre(1/4Dutch)_scaled
0.04498149 VASILIKI_scaled(Greece)
0.04623778 Nurzat(Ukrainian/Romanian)
0.04877114 someonenotyou(Hungarian)
0.04921738 DacoCeltic(Irish/Romanian)_scaled
0.04990205 Stears_scaled(Hungarian)
0.05254938 Mr.G_dad_scaled(Hun)
0.05298374 VFlumina(Italy)_scaled
0.05353069 Mr.G_scaled(Hun/DE)
0.05471712 Hrvoje(Croat/Slovenian)
0.05798951 Feiichy_Mother(Croat/German/Serb/Greek)
0.05806653 ImreMother(Hungarian)_scaled
0.05980577 Dunai_scaled(Hungarian)
0.06023013 Feiichy_Father(Croat)
0.06137588 Feiichy_scaled(Croat)

Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 1.9066% / 0.01906613
31.8 IrisSelene_scaled(Romanian/Bulgarian/Hungarian/Croatmix)
31.4 Claudia_scaled(Italy)
15.2 Stears_scaled(Hungarian)
8.4 Martin_scaled(¾Macedonian/¼Serbian)
5.8 CelestiaSis_scaled(American)
3.8 Vale_scaled(Macedonian)
2.2 PeterskiLD_scaled(Poland)
1.2 Abriekman(Poland/Jewish)_scaled
0.2 VASILIKI_scaled(Greece)

[protos]

Your results will vary depending on DNA company. That's because they test different parts of your genome. In fact, unless you do WGS test you won't get completely accurate results.

I'll show you how my results compare.

This is my 23 and me when I added it in Illustrative DNA (Ancient Population Mixed Mode - Iron Age):


This is combined top 5 DNA companies results:


This is with whom I actually share genes (uploaded VCF file with 95% SNP coverage on sequencing.com) today:


And actual genetic distance:

[brunolord20]

Basically you re mix between Farmers and Steppes when a calc pull a sample with high farmer and low steppe this calc will compensate lack of steppe from sample with high farmer choosing a sample with high steppe, run your coords in a ancient calc like bronze age when you will get always a mix farmer and steppes

[djipon]

Your results will vary depending on DNA company. That's because they test different parts of your genome. In fact, unless you do WGS test you won't get completely accurate results.

I'll show you how my results compare.

This is my 23 and me when I added it in Illustrative DNA (Ancient Population Mixed Mode - Iron Age):


This is combined top 5 DNA companies results:


This is with whom I actually share genes (uploaded VCF file with 95% SNP coverage on sequencing.com) today:


And actual genetic distance:

So which one of the two Iron Age comparisons would you consider more accurate? Or you wouldn't consider anything accurate at all

[protos]

So which one of the two Iron Age comparisons would you consider more accurate? Or you wouldn't consider anything accurate at all

My deeper origins are mostly from Macedonia so for sure that one with Greeks (combined one).

[djipon]

My deeper origins are mostly from Macedonia so for sure that one with Greeks (combined one).

I find these the most accurate of the lot... Though, to be honest, I feel more and more confused, the more I go deeper



These' number is pretty low in the list and fit not so good as the others, but I find them plausible, because the Greek samples are closer to some Jewish samples. I got 2% Ashkenazi on familytreeDNA, so idk if I should consider these kinds of little details when making my conclusions for now.




The three way mixed makes no sense to me whatsoever, because there is literally no combination between three that doesn't contain Nordic, Viking or Russian Nordic

[JerryS.]

Distance to: djipon_scaled
0.03003095 Vojnik_scaled(Macedonian)
0.03352485 Vale_scaled(Macedonian)
0.03483749 alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
0.03525361 Fellow(Moldova/Romania)_scaled
0.03769242 Vasil(Macedonian)_scaled
0.03849993 Bosniensis_scaled(Bosnia)
0.03867117 IrisSelene_scaled(Romanian/Bulgarian/Hungarian/Croatmix)
0.04077184 Martin_scaled(¾Macedonian/¼Serbian)
0.04316282 Enr1989(Italy)_scaled
0.04364654 Feiichy_Grandaunt(German/Serbo-Greek)
0.04462649 Imre(1/4Dutch)_scaled
0.04498149 VASILIKI_scaled(Greece)
0.04623778 Nurzat(Ukrainian/Romanian)
0.04877114 someonenotyou(Hungarian)
0.04921738 DacoCeltic(Irish/Romanian)_scaled
0.04990205 Stears_scaled(Hungarian)
0.05254938 Mr.G_dad_scaled(Hun)
0.05298374 VFlumina(Italy)_scaled
0.05353069 Mr.G_scaled(Hun/DE)
0.05471712 Hrvoje(Croat/Slovenian)
0.05798951 Feiichy_Mother(Croat/German/Serb/Greek)
0.05806653 ImreMother(Hungarian)_scaled
0.05980577 Dunai_scaled(Hungarian)
0.06023013 Feiichy_Father(Croat)
0.06137588 Feiichy_scaled(Croat)

Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 1.9066% / 0.01906613
31.8 IrisSelene_scaled(Romanian/Bulgarian/Hungarian/Croatmix)
31.4 Claudia_scaled(Italy)
15.2 Stears_scaled(Hungarian)
8.4 Martin_scaled(¾Macedonian/¼Serbian)
5.8 CelestiaSis_scaled(American)
3.8 Vale_scaled(Macedonian)
2.2 PeterskiLD_scaled(Poland)
1.2 Abriekman(Poland/Jewish)_scaled
0.2 VASILIKI_scaled(Greece)

As you can see with modern individuals the Nordic Germanic is gone.

[djipon]

As you can see with modern individuals the Nordic Germanic is gone.

Yeah, so I guess I shouldn't consider the Three Way fits in illustrative at all.

[protos]

I find these the most accurate of the lot... Though, to be honest, I feel more and more confused, the more I go deeper



These' number is pretty low in the list and fit not so good as the others, but I find them plausible, because the Greek samples are closer to some Jewish samples. I got 2% Ashkenazi on familytreeDNA, so idk if I should consider these kinds of little details when making my conclusions for now.




The three way mixed makes no sense to me whatsoever, because there is literally no combination between three that doesn't contain Nordic, Viking or Russian Nordic

Well one of your parents is Bulgarian and other is Greek, so having post-Medieval Syrmia (Serb) and Anatolian Greek is surely a good description for you. Also if I am not mistaken this medieval Greek mainlander is Greek Vlach, they have less Mediterranean and more Balkan admix, which you probably don't have (assuming that your Greek parent is not from Epirus or Thessaly).

Also, I know that Greeks will be angry at me but I'll say it anyway, it shows how huge population exchange in Greece occurred historically. The Greeks of classical city states are virtually gone from Greece, and newly Hellenized Anatolians/Levantines repopulated coastal Greek cities during Roman/Byzantine era.

[djipon]

Well one of your parents is Bulgarian and other is Greek, so having post-Medieval Syrmia (Serb) and Anatolian Greek is surely a good description for you. Also if I am not mistaken this medieval Greek mainlander is Greek Vlach, they have less Mediterranean and more Balkan admix, which you probably don't have (assuming that your Greek parent is not from Epirus or Thessaly).

More like two Bulgarian parents and one of them having Greek ancestors on one side, but I got your point