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    Alexei was a very charismatic and progressive politician, I actually quite liked him. He will be missed. Obviously, he was killed for political reasons. No doubts about it. Rest in peace, Alexei Navalny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dviz View Post
    They kill their own in the thousands in the trenches in Ukraine, why would it matter one more?

    They've killed the opposition leaders since the beginning of the Putin's regime. But leaders are the tip of the iceberg. They kill untold numbers of regular Joes in the Gulag system. People were sent to Siberian "penal colonies" for a like on the wrong video.

    It's truly an wonderful regime, but hey they're not part of the globohomo

    Here's a quick recap of the opposition leaders killed by Putin

    Yevgeny Prigozhin

    Pavel Antov

    Ravil Maganov

    Mihail Lesin

    Boris Nemtsov

    Boris Berezovsky

    Sergei Magnitsky

    Natalia Estemirova

    Stanislav Markelov

    Anastasia Baburova

    Aleksander Litvinenko

    Anna Politovskaya

    Sergei Skripal

    Paul Klebnikov

    Sergey Yushenkov

    If you're curious you can read more details about the context of these murders you can read this article in Romanian:

    https://www.digi24.ro/stiri/externe/...remlin-2690101
    there is a verified story like this about the ex french president Nicolas Sarkozy and a strange behaviour before a press conference where the case of Anna Politovskaya had been broached , many hypothesis were made, like his was drunk or something similar ,but in reality he was very threatened in a very vulgar language,the slang of the thugs of the streets , the Vory v zakone, which translates to "thief in law.":

    June 2007, Nicolas Sarkozy and President of the French Republic for barely a month and he meets Vladimir Putin for the first time in his new suit. This meeting between the two men is organized on the occasion of the G8. In this first summit, Nicolas Sarkozy intends to make his manhood speak and evoke the topics that anger.

    - With me there will be no taboo topics. The hundreds of deaths in Chechnya are unacceptable. Anna Politkovskaya, the murdered Russian journalist, for me it is inadmissible.

    - (After a long silence, Putin answers him.) It's okay, are you done here?

    - Uh... Yes.

    - Well then, I'll explain. Your country, he is like that (showing a small size of his hands). My country he is like that (spreading his arms wide apart). So now, of two things one. Either you continue in this tone and I will crush you. Either you stop talking like that and you'll see. You just became President of France but I can make you the King of Europe."

    Humiliated like a child and insulted, specifies the witness of France 2, Sarkozy is stunned, shocked, and must go to a press conference. A scene that we remember since we then took Nicolas Sarkozy for drunk! It was omitting that neither Putin nor Sarkozy drink alcohol, specifies the speaker.


    i really don't like sarkozy on many other plans,but there, it's like he was threatened so much than an hitman was hidden in the shadows and ready to execute him



    there is another story with Boris Johnson

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirillMazur View Post
    The authorities are not interested in Navalny's death. There are zero benefits, and the reputational costs are huge.
    As an example, Navalny himself, under his signature, asked the colony administration to inject him with the AstraZeneka or Pfizer vaccine, instead of Sputnik-V.

    And with m-RNA vaccines, subsequent thrombus formation is an established side effect; young and healthy people suddenly die.

    The Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech monovalent COVID-19 vaccines are banned for use in the United States. The US Food and Drug Administration has banned the use of mRNA vaccines (https://twitter.com/US_FDA/status/1648315663939715072).

    In a couple of days, such a connection can be publicly announced. Refer to the US FDA ban and say that the “West” killed a young promising Russian oppositionist with its commercial untested vaccine. Declare all-Russian mourning, and Zelensky get ready.
    The claim that the vaccine's effects took a sudden toll on Navalny upon his return is quite the narrative. It's curious how, after surviving multiple assassination attempts as one of Putin's main critics, suddenly a vaccine becomes the chosen weapon against him. The plot seems almost too "intriguing" – a selective impact of corona vaccines exclusively on Putin's rivals, as if they come with a political target list.

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    Who wants to be the next leader in the fight for 'freedom and democracy'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vessna View Post
    Alexei was a very charismatic and progressive politician, I actually quite liked him. He will be missed. Obviously, he was killed for political reasons. No doubts about it. Rest in peace, Alexei Navalny.
    I didn't like him because he wasn't patriotic, and didn't care about the fate of Russians, only his own popularity. All he did was trying to smear Putin all the time.

    For instance, he wanted Russia to stop the war in Ukraine immediately, and leave the poor people of Donbas and Crimea to their own devices, under the mercy of murderous Kiev radicals. Of course that didn't bother him, as long as it would make him a darling of the West. And the fact that the West wants to break up Russia also didn't bother him in the slightest.

    There is no evidence that he was "killed for political reasons", or killed at all. We don't know that, and for reasons already stated, is extremely unlikely. He wasn't a threat to Putin, who has 80% approval in Russia. Plus he was in jail for a long time already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dviz View Post
    They kill their own in the thousands in the trenches in Ukraine, why would it matter one more?
    my point was not that they would not do it, but that it would be very counterintuitive to do it this year before elections, especially American elections, to stir all these reactions in the West, not to affect Trump's campaign. so if they did it, it was a very bad move. if they didn't do it, who benefits most from it is Biden/Killary's team. or, the third option, that he died naturally. no one can say which of these three situations was it.

    I am sorry for him and I do think opposition leaders have a right to opinion and media coverage, I thought it was a bad idea since he decided to come back. his impact on Russians seems to have been little and his sacrifice was absolute, so for his family and for himself I am sorry he didn't stay in the West when he had the opportunity

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    I think Joe Biden killed him via CIA Agents to blame it on Putin before the elections.
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    Also Joe Biden says that Navalny "wanted a better future for Russia" but is that really true? Can someone tell me if his politics are good for Russia?
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    Hundreds rally for Navalny in Tel Aviv, Haifa as Israeli officials stay silent on death

    Kremlin critic’s death, widely blamed on Putin, sparks protests among Russian diaspora; rallies also held in Jerusalem, Netanya, Karmiel; rights group says 100 detained in Russia

    - https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundre...lent-on-death/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florstadt View Post
    The claim that the vaccine's effects took a sudden toll on Navalny upon his return is quite the narrative. It's curious how, after surviving multiple assassination attempts as one of Putin's main critics, suddenly a vaccine becomes the chosen weapon against him. The plot seems almost too "intriguing" – a selective impact of corona vaccines exclusively on Putin's rivals, as if they come with a political target list.
    In any case, this media event is not for the Russian audience. In Russia, no one cares about Navalny for a long time. It's just Dems turned on some media support, imho.

    We need to see how the promotion of this story goes in the West now. And who will promote it.

    There is the collective Tucker Carlson, who here shows that Putin is a normal politician and you can negotiate with them, and there are people who will promote the topic that Putin is a tyrant who kills his political opponents in prisons, and you can’t talk to him.

    Everything that Navalny knew, he revealed long ago. It was just a prisoner who simply died of a blood clot. Moreover, he hardly led a healthy lifestyle.


    Quote Originally Posted by Vessna View Post
    Alexei was a very charismatic and progressive politician, I actually quite liked him. He will be missed. Obviously, he was killed for political reasons. No doubts about it. Rest in peace, Alexei Navalny.
    This is his typical audience. Emigrants who left for lace underpants, and who do not understand at all what Navalny and the other Khodorkovskys from the "Soros" gang could do with Russia and the Russians if their revenge had been successful.

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