What are your 100 closest modern populations?

[Grace O'Malley]

I thought that Daco Celtic was half Irish. Is this some kind of Mandela Effect, or was he pretending to be a mick?

Daco Celtic is half Irish and half Romanian on calculators this will give you something in the middle. On a commercial dna test it will give you an accurate result because they actually go through your genome and see what variants you have etc. They check your dna against references they have. If you look at Daco Celtic's actual Ancestry report and his 23&Me report it assigns the correct ethnic breakdown roughly with some small trace areas. He gets the correct Munster Cork GCs.

If you are mixed ancestry you have to take that into account when using calculators. Sometimes the 50/50 and 4 way mixes might be more accurate than the single ethnicity result. This is why you have to not take calculators are gospel. They are quite accurate for people who are fairly unmixed but even then they do not give me the correct provincial split in the ones that are broken down further i.e. half Connacht/half Munster. I usually get Ulster on them. Even with the commercial dna testing companies I've found them very accurate of course with picking up I'm Irish but on Ancestry I get no GCs from my father and on 23&Me it is the opposite I get no southern Irish and get Northern Irish. But that's still pretty good for such fine scale testing.

Mixed ancestry US people for example will still get inaccurate trace countries on commercial tests. I think the companies are quite good at assigning the bulk of your ancestry but people take some of the trace countries as factual when they are highly likely to be not genuine ancestry and will disappear with upgrades.

[Daco Celtic]

I thought that Daco Celtic was half Irish. Is this some kind of Mandela Effect, or was he pretending to be a mick?

Ok, I'll come clean, I'm a cuckoo clock repairman from Brienz, Switzerland

[CordedWhelp]

I thought that Daco Celtic was half Irish. Is this some kind of Mandela Effect, or was he pretending to be a mick?

His result is very logical, considering that he is 50/50 Romanian/Irish. People who are 50/50 are going to plot somewhere geographically at a middle ground between both places. With all that Romanian blood, it’s not possible for someone like him to plot as like a Belgian or that far west.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Daco Celtic is half Irish and half Romanian on calculators this will give you something in the middle. On a commercial dna test it will give you an accurate result because they actually go through your genome and see what variants you have etc. They check your dna against references they have. If you look at Daco Celtic's actual Ancestry report and his 23&Me report it assigns the correct ethnic breakdown roughly with some small trace areas. He gets the correct Munster Cork GCs.

If you are mixed ancestry you have to take that into account when using calculators. Sometimes the 50/50 and 4 way mixes might be more accurate than the single ethnicity result. This is why you have to not take calculators are gospel. They are quite accurate for people who are fairly unmixed but even then they do not give me the correct provincial split in the ones that are broken down further i.e. half Connacht/half Munster. I usually get Ulster on them. Even with the commercial dna testing companies I've found them very accurate of course with picking up I'm Irish but on Ancestry I get no GCs from my father and on 23&Me it is the opposite I get no southern Irish and get Northern Irish. But that's still pretty good for such fine scale testing.

Mixed ancestry US people for example will still get inaccurate trace countries on commercial tests. I think the companies are quite good at assigning the bulk of your ancestry but people take some of the trace countries as factual when they are highly likely to be not genuine ancestry and will disappear with upgrades.

Thanks for the explanation, which confirms my beliefs about certain gimmicks and ethnic mixtures. I thought that I had a psychotic break involving a parallel universe where you turn out to have ancestral roots in East Anglia. Nah, I figured that it was just a matter of mixtures, which is why Southern Americans are incorrectly labelled on these things. It's like having a French surname when you're 95.7% "British Isles".

[Anglo-Celtic]

Ok, I'll come clean, I'm a cuckoo clock repairman from Brienz, Switzerland

There's nothing wrong with that. I bet that you make great cheese and chocolate too.

[Anglo-Celtic]

His result is very logical, considering that he is 50/50 Romanian/Irish. People who are 50/50 are going to plot somewhere geographically at a middle ground between both places. With all that Romanian blood, it’s not possible for someone like him to plot as like a Belgian or that far west.

I know. I sometimes use underhanded methods to increase activity when the forum is slow.

[Grace O'Malley]

Thanks for the explanation, which confirms my beliefs about certain gimmicks and ethnic mixtures. I thought that I had a psychotic break involving a parallel universe where you turn out to have ancestral roots in East Anglia. Nah, I figured that it was just a matter of mixtures, which is why Southern Americans are incorrectly labelled on these things. It's like having a French surname when you're 95.7% "British Isles".

On another thread there was a calculator with even further breakdown of countries and this was my result.

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.01748726 Irish_Ulster
0.01842267 Irish
0.01907593 Scottish
0.01908068 Irish_Munster
0.01909857 Irish_Connacht
0.01932648 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
0.01993187 German_Lower_Saxony
0.02095478 English_East_England
0.02099611 English
0.02114305 English_West_Midlands
0.02185977 Irish_Leinster
0.02253436 English_Southeast
0.02269742 Scottish_East
0.02272649 English_Northeast
0.02274383 Scottish_North-Highlands
0.02292668 Scottish_Northeast
0.02321000 Scottish_Southwest
0.02368593 English_Lancashire
0.02398783 English_Southwest
0.02533331 English_Yorkshire
0.02596636 English_West_Country
0.02695053 English_East_Midlands
0.03148940 German_Hamburg
0.03228576 German_Mecklenburg
0.03322401 Scottish_Argyll_and_Bute

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.4261% / 0.01426068
41.2 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
37.4 Irish_Ulster
9.4 Scottish_Argyll_and_Bute
6.0 German_Mecklenburg
6.0 Irish

It's not bad but as I know my ancestry and both my lines have long term ancestry in Connacht and North Munster I find the calculators fun and interesting and they are quite accurate but they are only calculators. They aren't 100% accurate. Commercial dna tests will be more accurate because they look at strands of dna you inherit and populations do inherit the same long strands of dna. Some populations however are too big to put under one umbrella so results won't be as accurate as they are with small populations like the Irish. The English, for example, are different north and south with even the Cornish being different than Anglia so possibly in the future they might get better if they have enough samples of people who have long term ancestry in certain regions. Anyway with people from the South in the US it would be best to have a good paper trail so that you know your actual ancestry. Not all people there would have the exact same ancestry so even getting a big amount of people from Georgia for example, a calculator will give the average results of all those people so while a lot of people might have Irish or Scots ancestry there will also be German and English ancestry in the pot so you will get the average of that which might make people plot in East Anglia for example even though the majority ancestry might be Irish or Scots etc. So while the calculators are interesting this is why I think you can't take the results as fact. They are giving the average of all the people in that category.

[oszkar07]

Lots of midway points
Distance to: Oszkar (Hungarian/British)
0.01941602 German_East:German_East8
0.02300870 German_Erlangen:GSM1658633
0.02328887 German_Erlangen:GSM1658640
0.02337819 German_Erlangen:GSM1658598
0.02379814 German_Erlangen:GSM1658604
0.02513125 German_Erlangen:GSM1658627
0.02542947 German_Erlangen:GSM1658615
0.02601007 German_Erlangen:GSM1658659
0.02611313 German_East:German_East7
0.02682645 German_Erlangen:GSM1658606
0.02704050 Afrikaner:AFR086
0.02720878 Croatian:Croatia_Cro302
0.02732635 German_Erlangen:GSM1658657
0.02761392 Austrian:Austria14
0.02761914 German_Erlangen:GSM1658620
0.02762170 Slovenian:Slovenian147
0.02764201 German_East:German_East1
0.02764862 BelgianA:5434289041_R03C01
0.02773647 Hungarian:NA15202
0.02879465 French_Nord:N_22
0.02889736 Dutch:GSM567110
0.02907978 German_Erlangen:GSM1658651
0.02910751 Dutch:GSM1633980
0.02913923 German_Erlangen:GSM1658647
0.02928899 French_Alsace:A_5
0.02935961 German_Erlangen:GSM1658623
0.02940374 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia:EG600036
0.02951346 German_Erlangen:GSM1658632
0.02988932 German_Erlangen:GSM1658658
0.02992716 German:German25
0.03002593 German_Hamburg:GSM1031521
0.03011173 German_East:German_East6
0.03017609 English:England14
0.03029592 Dutch:GSM1633983
0.03034392 BelgianA:5434289001_R02C02
0.03040499 German:German78
0.03045404 German:German42
0.03091168 English_Cornwall:HG00239
0.03094572 Dutch:GSM1634000
0.03100146 German_Erlangen:GSM1658654
0.03101318 Danish:GSM1985825
0.03114993 Austrian:Austria3
0.03119425 German_Erlangen:GSM1658653
0.03133642 BelgianA:5434289058_R02C02
0.03166833 Dutch:GSM567027
0.03167510 Hungarian:HungarianE5
0.03168535 Danish:502
0.03186864 English:HG01790
0.03199787 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia:EG600035
0.03203066 Czech:NA15727
0.03220850 Hungarian:NA15203
0.03221132 Dutch:GSM1634025
0.03222388 German_Erlangen:GSM1658649
0.03225879 English:English3
0.03233295 Czech:NA15731
0.03235927 Swedish:GSM1884790
0.03242108 Danish:GSM1985763
0.03245440 Dutch:GSM1633954
0.03253877 Swedish:GSM1884877
0.03262420 German_Erlangen:GSM1658616
0.03272751 German_East:German_East3
0.03274511 Moldovan:44618757801C02
0.03275728 German_Hamburg:GSM1031526
0.03279877 German:German20
0.03281183 German:German54
0.03289497 Czech:NA15726
0.03291028 German_Erlangen:GSM1658603
0.03304660 Dutch:GSM1634031
0.03307899 Dutch:GSM567341
0.03316104 German:German45
0.03319597 German_Erlangen:GSM1658607
0.03326146 French_Alsace:A_27
0.03331605 Dutch:GSM567070
0.03331781 German_Erlangen:GSM1658609
0.03335551 Norwegian:GSM1550639
0.03336301 Danish:495
0.03337460 BelgianB:5434289041_R04C02
0.03342799 Dutch:GSM567336
0.03343534 BelgianA:5434289051_R01C01
0.03349765 Norwegian:GSM821014
0.03351657 German_Erlangen:GSM1658626
0.03355910 German_Hamburg:GSM1031513
0.03361463 German_Erlangen:GSM1658663
0.03367679 Welsh:WalesL42
0.03371065 Croatian:Croatia_Cro140
0.03371824 English:HG02215
0.03398852 Dutch:GSM1634024
0.03399852 German_Hamburg:GSM1031529
0.03406065 Danish:GSM1985817
0.03406867 German_Hamburg:GSM1031519
0.03409895 German:German43
0.03418549 Croatian:Croatia_Cro142
0.03423496 German_Erlangen:GSM1658660
0.03425834 German:German74
0.03429305 German_Hamburg:GSM1031523
0.03430220 Dutch:GSM1634039
0.03431501 BelgianA:5434289003_R02C01
0.03438538 Hungarian:NA15206
0.03440816 Afrikaner:AFR035
0.03441090 French_Alsace:A_31
0.03441276 German_Erlangen:GSM1658636
0.03441358 Hungarian:HungarianC5
0.03447294 Swedish:GSM1884882
0.03456261 Polish_Silesian:Silesian1
0.03466503 Austrian:Austria5
0.03468273 German:German29
0.03476153 BelgianA:5434289041_R05C01
0.03479077 Danish:461
0.03485522 Dutch:GSM1633997
0.03487231 Dutch:GSM567042
0.03489245 English:English1
0.03494149 French_Alsace:A_10
0.03501701 BelgianA:5434289041_R06C01
0.03507437 German:German3
0.03508201 German_Erlangen:GSM1658618
0.03512375 Czech:NA15729
0.03514999 Scottish:Scottish23
0.03516902 German:German27
0.03522983 Swedish:GSM1884893
0.03524356 Austrian:Austria1
0.03525526 Hungarian:NA15201
0.03527149 Croatian:Croatia_Cro43
0.03536855 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_6
0.03543469 German_Erlangen:GSM1658646
0.03544001 English:HG01789
0.03554172 Danish:GSM1985793
0.03559995 Danish:GSM1985729
0.03564488 Hungarian:NA15205
0.03565325 Swedish:Sweden5
0.03565356 Moldovan:44618757482C02
0.03565444 Czech:NA15730
0.03569268 French_Seine-Maritime:French23915
0.03572922 Swedish:GSM1884758
0.03579050 Danish:GSM1985821
0.03579062 German_Erlangen:GSM1658656
0.03580369 Czech:NA15728
0.03585555 German_Erlangen:GSM1658605
0.03591216 Swedish:GSM1884785
0.03602480 German_Erlangen:GSM1658662
0.03604885 German_Erlangen:GSM1658645
0.03605666 BelgianB:5434289051_R06C02
0.03606401 Afrikaner:AFR021
0.03609531 Slovenian:Slovenian90
0.03626914 Dutch:GSM1634004
0.03633157 Dutch:GSM566788
0.03636263 Norwegian:GSM1550614
0.03638361 Dutch:GSM1633945
0.03648926 Scottish:Scottish11
0.03651129 German_Erlangen:GSM1658611
0.03651833 BelgianA:5434289051_R02C02

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 0.7440% / 0.00744015 | R5P
26.8 Russian_Tver
25.2 German_East
21.2 German
13.8 Spanish_Burgos
13.0 Irish

[Anglo-Celtic]

It's weird. The Pogues' "Blue Heaven" started when I clicked on Grace's post (yes, we really are in some kind of a simulation).

[RyoHazuki]

Distance to: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
0.01289334 French_Brittany
0.01388114 BelgianA
0.01445715 Welsh
0.01556492 English_Cornwall
0.01640290 English
0.01812944 Dutch
0.01873590 German
0.01993703 BelgianB
0.02038404 Orcadian
0.02073282 Scottish
0.02099454 French_Nord
0.02139656 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02148232 BelgianC
0.02409767 Afrikaner
0.02418284 French_Alsace
0.02464224 Irish
0.02477347 French_Paris
0.02488579 German_Erlangen
0.02530237 Danish
0.02717900 French_Seine-Maritime
0.02732584 German_Hamburg
0.02767016 Swiss_German
0.02786980 Shetlandic
0.02885626 Norwegian
0.03035426 Icelandic
0.03092614 Austrian
0.03350791 French_Occitanie
0.03528454 German_East
0.03769715 Swedish
0.03778671 French_Auvergne
0.04198199 Hungarian
0.04238687 Swiss_French
0.04254097 Czech
0.04602841 Slovenian
0.04709471 Croatian
0.04805669 French_Provence
0.04909294 Basque_Araba
0.04937585 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04960599 Spanish_Barcelones
0.05137551 Spanish_Penedes
0.05202666 Spanish_Biscay
0.05243285 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.05296777 French_Chalosse
0.05298947 Spanish_Girona
0.05391632 Spanish_Lleida
0.05407504 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.05417123 French_South
0.05422180 Spanish_Aragon_North
0.05424005 Polish_Silesian
0.05462061 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona

Distance to: Ryo_scaled
0.02938344 English_Cornwall
0.03018375 English
0.03070766 Orcadian
0.03136731 BelgianA
0.03171045 Scottish
0.03328919 Welsh
0.03387194 Dutch
0.03474354 French_Brittany
0.03537730 Afrikaner
0.03556094 Irish
0.03836167 Shetlandic
0.03878002 Danish
0.03889071 German
0.03900142 Icelandic
0.03975137 French_Nord
0.04004705 Norwegian
0.04007750 BelgianC
0.04095178 BelgianB
0.04142096 French_Alsace
0.04182983 German_Hamburg
0.04266728 German_Erlangen
0.04271912 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04335415 Swiss_German
0.04360312 French_Paris
0.04492454 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04620065 German_East
0.04809920 Swedish
0.04896195 Austrian
0.05087806 French_Occitanie
0.05472363 French_Auvergne
0.05558481 Czech
0.05560534 Hungarian
0.05893281 Slovenian
0.06090929 Swiss_French
0.06093870 Croatian
0.06206619 French_Provence
0.06292253 Spanish_Barcelones
0.06365470 Basque_Araba
0.06554382 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.06565350 Spanish_Biscay
0.06630680 Spanish_Penedes
0.06696336 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.06727648 Spanish_Lleida
0.06769787 Polish_Silesian
0.06786660 French_Chalosse
0.06806604 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.06812311 Spanish_Girona
0.06841335 French_South
0.06847511 Spanish_Asturias
0.06848305 Spanish_Cataluna