Wends in Germany coming from the Balkans?(!)

[rothaer]

At this moment I cannot respond to this because I would have to look up some things before (and this may take a while).

However seeing how Lusitia is located right at the border of the Central European plain and Bohemia I don't deny there may have been both directions of migration (to the west through the Central European plain and south-east to north-west from Bohemia).

As for the mentioned settlement hiatus in Mecklenburg and Brandenburg (roughly) I have that from a publication from 2016 where all newer finds (a lot) are evaluated and this conclusion is drawn.

As for Bohemia regardless of the mountains (Sudets and Ore mountains) the Elbe river is considerd an important migration path. It also applied when the Germanics spread upstreams into Bohemia somewhat before the turn of times.

[rothaer]

K36

Distance to: DE_52?11′N_14?15′E_Sorb1
0.10770330 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow)
7.00553353 Ukrainian
7.14345155 Ukrainian_Central
7.39478871 Polish_South
7.42142170 Carpathian_Rusyns
7.42649985 Polish_SE_Carpathia
7.45178502 Belarusian_Polesia
7.45297927 Ukrainian_East
7.65416880 Polish-2
8.06194766 Belarusian_West
8.07997525 Polish_Upper_Silesia
8.12200714 Polish
8.48737297 Polish_Mazovia
8.48788548 Upper_Silesia
8.90454940 Slovak
8.92827531 Russian_Bryansk
9.03164990 Slovak-2
9.04908835 Polish_Kashubian
9.15174300 Polish_Wielkopolska
9.60656546 Belarusian_East
9.65610170 Russian_Oryol
9.76026127 Czech_Bohemia
9.88852365 Russian_Don_Cossack
10.05412851 Russian_Smolensk
10.31234697 Russian_Voronezh


Distance to: DE_51?16′N_14?6′E_Sorb2
10.92300783 Polish_SE_Carpathia
11.79121707 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
12.54427359 Belarusian_West
12.71801478 Polish-2
12.98481421 Polish_Kashubian
13.09470122 Polish_Upper_Silesia
13.17184877 Cossack_Ukrainian
13.25705473 Belarusian_Polesia
13.25719804 Polish_Mazovia
13.56495853 Polish_South
13.65227454 Polish_North
13.72568395 Polish
14.04487095 Polish_Wielkopolska
14.34697529 Ukrainian
14.44625903 German_West_Prussia
14.51559506 Russian_Voronezh
14.52057506 Russian_Smolensk
14.57669716 Ukrainian_West
14.71237914 Belarusian_East
14.75168126 Russian_Tambov
14.80271259 Russian_Don_Cossack
14.86431633 Ukrainian_East
15.03084163 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow)
15.05289009 Ukrainian_Central
15.08407107 Upper_Silesia


Distance to: DE_51?16′N_14?6′E_Sorb3
12.72809098 Russian_Don_Cossack
12.79257597 Slovak
13.13190009 Upper_Silesia
13.20941710 Ukrainian
13.35716662 Slovak-2
13.40313769 Russian_Tver
13.56859978 Polish_South
13.60886843 Ukrainian_Central
13.64358091 Russian_Oryol
13.79427417 Polish_Wielkopolska
14.01238381 Ukrainian_West
14.10685649 Polish
14.34584957 Polish_Upper_Silesia
14.41057598 Czech_Bohemia
14.77924558 Russian_Voronezh
14.86172265 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow)
14.91692663 Russian_Tambov
15.09363111 Polish-2
15.10775629 Carpathian_Rusyns
15.19323205 Belarusian_East
15.23086997 Czech
15.25557603 Polish_Kashubian
15.27340499 Ukrainian_East
15.42605912 Czech_Moravia
15.60321441 Russian_Kursk


Distance to: DE_51?16′N_14?6′E_Sorb4
9.02028824 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
10.08619849 Polish_Kashubian
10.19370394 Polish_North
10.24472059 Polish-2
10.32362824 Polish_SE_Carpathia
10.58218786 Polish_Mazovia
10.63009878 Polish_Upper_Silesia
10.85553315 Polish
11.21173938 Ukrainian_West
11.33619425 Polish_South
11.59698237 Belarusian_West
11.88727891 Polish_Wielkopolska
12.09407293 German_West_Prussia
12.19155856 Ukrainian
12.42801271 Ukrainian_East
12.59390726 Belarusian_Polesia
12.72273555 Slovak
12.92041408 Ukrainian_Central
13.01710029 Russian_Don_Cossack
13.04944443 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow)
13.26792373 Czech
13.27510829 Czech_Bohemia
13.31838203 Czech_Moravia
13.32525797 Russian_Bryansk
13.33564772 Belarusian_East

Distance to: DE_51?16′N_14?6′E_Sorb5
10.63851023 Ukrainian_Central
11.19544997 Ukrainian_East
11.61538204 Carpathian_Rusyns
11.94904599 Polish_South
12.18848637 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow)
12.44581456 Ukrainian
12.60095234 Polish_Upper_Silesia
12.64431888 Slovak
12.76754088 Slovak-2
12.77699887 Polish-2
13.05958652 Polish_Wielkopolska
13.15944148 Belarusian_Polesia
13.37352983 Ukrainian_West
13.55568884 Polish_SE_Carpathia
13.60616404 Polish_Mazovia
13.71860780 Polish
13.73819857 Russian_Oryol
13.75628584 Polish_Kashubian
14.00993576 Czech_Moravia
14.05341595 Czech_Bohemia
14.29722351 Belarusian_West
14.56625209 Belarusian_East
14.67471294 Polish_North
14.70737910 Upper_Silesia
14.73562011 Russian_Don_Cossack


Target: DE_52?11′N_14?15′E_Sorb1
Distance: 7.5365% / 0.07536544 | ADC: 0.25x
99.0 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow)
1.0 Ukrainian


Target: DE_51?16′N_14?6′E_Sorb2
Distance: 844.7838% / 8.44783834 | ADC: 0.25x
36.4 Polish_Sudovia
24.0 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
17.4 Cossack_Ukrainian
10.0 Spanish_Cantabria
6.2 Latvian2
3.8 Spanish_North
2.2 Irish_Ulster


Target: DE_51?16′N_14?6′E_Sorb3
Distance: 1032.5972% / 10.32597189 | ADC: 0.25x
53.4 Russian_Tver
17.4 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South
16.2 Ukrainian
4.6 Greek_Istanbul
4.4 North_Macedonian
4.0 Russian_Don_Cossack


Target: DE_51?16′N_14?6′E_Sorb4
Distance: 614.6899% / 6.14689856 | ADC: 0.25x
53.8 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
33.8 Polish_Sudovia
9.2 Spanish_North
3.2 Basque

Target: DE_51?16′N_14?6′E_Sorb5
Distance: 946.8187% / 9.46818671 | ADC: 0.25x
55.4 Ukrainian_East
20.4 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South
9.2 Ukrainian_Central
8.0 Lithuanian
7.0 North_Macedonian-2

There is some weak signal, but I think it's more of a return movement.

Sorb2 and 4 have abt. 10% Spanish instead of Makedonian. It's hard to say if it's all a calculatory artefact by having "too much" northern components or if it's reflecting something real. Regardless of this, very early Slavs from the Balkans can but must not yet have picked up much from that population and may well still have been pretty "proto".