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    Quote Originally Posted by axlredneck View Post
    Code:
    Greek_Peloponnese_273,0.1164123,0.1451352,0.0048542,-0.0282264,0.0177366,-0.0101566,0.0025497,-0.0000896,0.0008144,0.0150649,0.0019992,0.0015289,-0.0023203,0.0065797,-0.0145151,-0.0028034,0.0058296,0.0008845,0.005487,-0.0048205,-0.0063268,0.0010567,0.0023201,0.0013625,-0.0014607
    Anatolia_IA,0.110686425,0.153665548,-0.036461291,-0.069977865,-0.002017354,-0.022099064,0.002819975,-0.007241056,-0.005019794,0.023110696,0.002593565,0.005334367,-0.009020471,0.003631104,-0.015262778,-0.002218412,0.004077084,0.002452977,0.005743771,-0.008486962,-0.004373348,0.001648948,0.001791654,0.002205625,3.52781E-05
    Hellenic_IA,0.1187011,0.1620494,-0.00598,-0.0614623,0.0252794,-0.0257376,-0.0023837,-0.0028021,0.0066326,0.0438149,0.004083,0.0099769,-0.0185401,-0.0035783,-0.0185743,-0.0092623,0.0119953,-0.000398,0.0077751,-0.008647,-0.0102497,0.005317,-0.0009156,0.0060247,-0.0047044
    Slavic,0.1335795,0.1256713,0.0785118,0.0726852,0.0417696,0.0273161,0.0109293,0.0141522,-0.0033293,-0.0275854,-0.0027814,-0.0106753,0.0205677,0.0275312,-0.0139279,0.0000116,0.0046338,-0.0007303,0.0045973,0.0018452,-0.0052226,-0.0052704,0.0091508,-0.0058095,-0.0000094
    Balkan_IA,0.1251104,0.1524141,0.0222186,-0.0208873,0.0278512,-0.0089709,-0.0009988,-0.0027885,0.003903,0.0311472,0.0025169,0.0074183,-0.0155226,-0.0051264,-0.0129839,-0.0032705,0.0063452,0.003336,0.0072695,-0.0080663,-0.0115837,0.004709,-0.0010063,0.0065771,-0.002355
    Levant_IA,0.0851417,0.1468526,-0.0612024,-0.099726,-0.0130673,-0.0377401,-0.0049367,-0.0089084,0.0132454,0.0086219,0.0105161,-0.0096017,0.0216175,0.002489,-0.007509,0.0080062,-0.0023857,0.0027152,0.0024513,0.0048289,0.0044681,0.0057811,-0.0049596,-0.0008004,-0.0016992
    Turkic,0.0811938,-0.053823,-0.0083593,-0.004845,-0.0412383,-0.0036255,0.0096353,0.0082688,-0.0133623,-0.0095067,-0.0060627,-0.0018233,0.0010902,-0.0070417,0.0041168,0.007646,-0.0036073,0.0019003,0.0005868,-0.0026055,-0.0072372,-0.0037095,-0.0040468,0.0001808,0.0027543
    Berber,-0.0391015,0.1347667,-0.0189668,-0.0779,0.0188088,-0.0355667,-0.0216624,0.005864,0.0576878,0.0205605,0.0056455,-0.0122362,0.0263216,-0.009407,0.0124783,-0.0050072,-0.0056909,-0.0131682,-0.0303375,0.0115203,-0.0085143,-0.0241851,0.0149999,-4.95e-05,0.0005494
    pre-Slavic,0.111250967,0.15553111,-0.019914021,-0.062948193,0.010695022,-0.023009332,-0.000431412,-0.00508616,0.002491572,0.030019489,0.003776396,0.005738113,-0.01015963,-0.000277875,-0.015068967,-0.003958347,0.006415288,0.001413683,0.005882419,-0.007126798,-0.006684551,0.003296512,0.000120999,0.00382112,-0.002033846
    Distance to: CDG_scaled
    0.08350665 Slavic
    0.10526367 Balkan_IA
    0.11781840 Greek_Peloponnese_273
    0.15842435 Hellenic_IA
    0.16214027 pre-Slavic
    0.17751729 Anatolia_IA
    0.22332574 Levant_IA
    0.23497756 Turkic
    0.25446810 Berber

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 5.8956% / 0.05895626
    59.6 Slavic
    40.2 Balkan_IA
    0.2 Turkic

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmob View Post
    Thank God for Anatolian admixture in Greece. Otherwise the country would be another balkanite failed state. Now it's only semi-failed.
    Unfortunately, Anatolian ancestry does not seem to have benefited Turkey:

    https://www.ig.com/us/news-and-trade...31-5000-240305

    https://menafn.com/1107953759/Monito...l-Some-Way-Off

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...igh-inflation/

    https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business...igh-inflation/

    https://www.firstpost.com/opinion/va...-13746427.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmob View Post
    Thank God for Anatolian admixture in Greece. Otherwise the country would be another balkanite failed state. Now it's only semi-failed.
    lmao
    ottomanturk

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    Quote Originally Posted by protos View Post
    Strange how you don't have Balkan_IA
    I always get non-Slavic part as Greek-like, not Illyrian-like.
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    Target: Dušan_scaled
    Distance: 1.7521% / 0.01752098
    60.4 Slavic: RUS_Sunghir_MA
    29.8 Roman: SRB_Svilos_Krusevlje
    9.8 Byzantine: TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz2

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    Quote Originally Posted by celticdragongod View Post
    Unfortunately, Anatolian ancestry does not seem to have benefited Turkey:


    You are comparing Turkey to the average run of the mill balkanite tragedy?

    You're not from around here, eh pardner?
    Last edited by kingmob; 03-09-2024 at 04:33 AM.

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    This is Sparta, motherfuckers!


    Target: 300
    Distance: 1.3139% / 0.01313926
    51.6 Slavic
    25.6 Greek_Peloponnese_273
    17.0 Hellenic_IA
    3.2 Turkic
    2.6 Anatolia_IA

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    Target: Kenshiro_scaled
    Distance: 1.9719% / 0.01971933 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    46.0 ALB_Cinamak_Anc
    40.0 pre-Slavic
    7.2 Slavic
    6.8 Turkic

    Target: Kenshiro_scaled
    Distance: 1.9694% / 0.01969423
    46.4 ALB_Cinamak_Anc
    39.2 pre-Slavic
    7.2 Slavic
    6.6 Turkic
    0.6 Berber

    Target: Kenshiro_scaled
    Distance: 1.8969% / 0.01896914 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    57.8 ALB_Cinamak_Anc
    29.2 Anatolia_IA
    5.8 Turkic
    5.4 Slavic
    1.8 Berber

    Target: Kenshiro_scaled
    Distance: 1.8969% / 0.01896914
    57.8 ALB_Cinamak_Anc
    29.2 Anatolia_IA
    5.8 Turkic
    5.4 Slavic
    1.8 Berber
    With Anatolia IA and Without
    And With Greek Peloponnesian
    Target: Kenshiro_scaled
    Distance: 1.9915% / 0.01991499 | ADC: 0.25x
    44.6 Greek_Peloponnese_273
    41.4 ALB_Cinamak_Anc
    9.8 Anatolia_IA
    4.2 Turkic

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    Quote Originally Posted by axlredneck View Post
    @axl

    What is FST/Fixation Index?


    Code:
    > fst(prefix, pop1 = "Greece_BA_Mycenaean", pop2 = c("Greek.HO", "Turkish.HO", "Albanian.HO", "Bulgarian.HO", "Armenian.HO", "Georgian.HO", "Azeri.HO", "Armenian_Hemsheni.HO", "Syrian.HO", "Lebanese.HO", "Jordanian.HO", "Cypriot.HO", "Italian_South.HO" ))
    ℹ Reading allele frequencies from packedancestrymap files...
    ℹ v54.1.p1_HO_public.geno has 20503 samples and 597573 SNPs
    ℹ Calculating allele frequencies from 205 samples in 14 populations
    ℹ Expected size of allele frequency data: 134 MB
    597k SNPs read...
    ✔ 597573 SNPs read in total
    ! 572134 SNPs remain after filtering. 469971 are polymorphic.
    ℹ Allele frequency matrix for 572134 SNPs and 14 populations is 105 MB
    ℹ Computing pairwise f2 for all SNPs and population pairs requires 2947 MB RAM without splitting
    ℹ Computing without splitting since 2947 < 8000 (maxmem)...
    ℹ Returning fst blocks
    # A tibble: 13 × 4
       pop1                pop2                     est       se
                                            
     1 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Albanian.HO          0.00925 0.000624
     2 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Armenian.HO          0.0114  0.000526
     3 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Armenian_Hemsheni.HO 0.0153  0.000581
     4 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Azeri.HO             0.0152  0.000480
     5 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Bulgarian.HO         0.0100  0.000536
     6 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Cypriot.HO           0.0103  0.000572
     7 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Georgian.HO          0.0153  0.000485
     8 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Greek.HO             0.00915 0.000460
     9 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Italian_South.HO     0.00874 0.000743
    10 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Jordanian.HO         0.0141  0.000553
    11 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Lebanese.HO          0.0132  0.000569
    12 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Syrian.HO            0.0154  0.000588
    13 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Turkish.HO           0.0112  0.000423

    It looks like most East Med and adjacent groups are fairly close to BA_Mycenaeans, even Turks, with Greeks, South Italians and Albanians being the closest, despite their Medieval Euro/Slavic input.
    Last edited by kingmob; 03-09-2024 at 08:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    I always get non-Slavic part as Greek-like, not Illyrian-like.
    There is no Thracian sample in that calc

    Target: Dušan_scaled
    Distance: 1.7348% / 0.01734802
    59.8 Slavic
    38.2 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA
    2.0 Turkic
    0.0 Anatolia_IA
    0.0 Hellenic_IA
    0.0 Levant_IA
    0.0 Berber
    0.0 ALB_Cinamak_Anc
    0.0 MKD_Anc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Far_away View Post
    There is no Thracian sample in that calc

    Target: Dušan_scaled
    Distance: 1.7348% / 0.01734802
    59.8 Slavic
    38.2 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA
    2.0 Turkic
    0.0 Anatolia_IA
    0.0 Hellenic_IA
    0.0 Levant_IA
    0.0 Berber
    0.0 ALB_Cinamak_Anc
    0.0 MKD_Anc
    Thanks.
    Very close distance with sample BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA
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    Target: Dušan_scaled
    Distance: 1.7521% / 0.01752098
    60.4 Slavic: RUS_Sunghir_MA
    29.8 Roman: SRB_Svilos_Krusevlje
    9.8 Byzantine: TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz2

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