Armenia considers possibility of joining the EU

[Dušan]

Let's return to the topic. What bad has happened to Armenia through the years of independence Russia can be blamed for as unreliable ? I mean, Russia is literally the reason why modern Armenian state on territory of Erivan khanate later governorate (which had almost half of Azeri populace back in Russian Empire, now 98% are Armenians) still exists now.

And you have strong political and business lobby in bad Russia, mafia too, for sure.

The thing is, Artsakh Armenians trusted Russian peacekeepers and hoped they will save at least Stepanakert.

All this chaos, hundreds of thousand of refugees on both sides and three wars, could have been avoided, if Soviet borders between Armenian and Azeri Soviet republics had been drawn a bit differently, with most of Artskah being part of Armenian republic.

[black hole]

Armenia should be split between Turkey and Azerbaijan before it's late. Armenians are the most ungrateful people in the world, constantly crying about their fake genocide.

[Victor]

Armenia should be split between Turkey and Azerbaijan before it's late. Armenians are the most ungrateful people in the world, constantly crying about their fake genocide.

I don't wish them anything good or bad, just them being further from us. I'm ok with Armenians who culturally and socially assimilate, but that's some 5-10% of them.

[Victor]

The thing is, Artsakh Armenians trusted Russian peacekeepers and hoped they will save at least Stepanakert.

All this chaos, hundreds of thousand of refugees on both sides and three wars, could have been avoided, if Soviet borders between Armenian and Azeri Soviet republics had been drawn a bit differently, with most of Artskah being part of Armenian republic.

I think the bigger problem is tribal insanity of everyone. There were Azeris and Armenians living in both states, but being demon-possesed with ideas that everyone in this World should have a pure ethnostate created the problem as always. In case of Qarabag it was a cleanse of Azeris and I dunno why I should sympathize Armenians down there just because they're Armenians.

[Dušan]

I think the bigger problem is tribal insanity of everyone. There were Azeris and Armenians living in both states, but being demon-possesed with ideas that everyone in this World should have a pure ethnostate created the problem as always. In case of Qarabag it was a cleanse of Azeris and I dunno why I should sympathize Armenians down there just because they're Armenians.

It was far more Armenians that ended in Azerbaijani Soviet republic (including Nagorno Karabakh where they were 90% of population), than Azeris in Armenian Soviet republic.

Beside Armenians being Christians, I have solidarity with them, because fate of Krajina Serbs and Artsakh Armenians are similar.

[FinalFlash]

It was far more Armenians that ended in Azerbaijani Soviet republic (including Nagorno Karabakh where they were 90% of population), than Azeris in Armenian Soviet republic.

Beside Armenians being Christians, I have solidarity with them, because fate of Krajina Serbs and Artsakh Armenians are similar.

Armenians were heavily displaced by Shah Abbas from the modern day territories of Armenia along with Artsakh and Nakhijevan and sent to Iran while subsequently littering those territories with kurdoazeris. That's their legacy inside the territory of modern day Armenia since the early 1600s. That's literally it.

[Dušan]

Armenians were heavily displaced by Shah Abbas from the modern day territories of Armenia along with Artsakh and Nakhijevan and sent to Iran while subsequently littering those territories with kurdoazeris. That's their legacy inside the territory of modern day Armenia since the early 1600s. That's literally it.

It can be easily checked that over 3 times more Armenians ended up on the Azerbaijani side of the Soviet border than Azerbaijanis on the Armenian side.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...#Ethnic_groups
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...#Ethnic_groups

Obviously Soviet borders that became international, were not fair to Armenians.

[Victor]

It was far more Armenians that ended in Azerbaijani Soviet republic (including Nagorno Karabakh where they were 90% of population), than Azeris in Armenian Soviet republic.

Beside Armenians being Christians, I have solidarity with them, because fate of Krajina Serbs and Artsakh Armenians are similar.

Armenians are distinguished by the number of high-ranking criminals in Russia, the so-called "thieves in law" and, in general, Armenians are strongly associated with crime, not petty crimes. Carjacking, extortion, racketeering, real estate crimes. I mean, my attitude to Armenians didn't appear from nowhere. I know some Bakanites have simp attitude to Criminal shifted nations and societies, but I don't think it's your case.

Armenians are Jews on steroids in sense of activities, much less wise and much more violent. For example, most of Azeri and Georgian high ranked criminals in Russia are irl Jews from these countries. But Armenian ones are ethnic Armenians.

[FinalFlash]

It can be easily checked that over 3 times more Armenians ended up on the Azerbaijani side of the Soviet border than Azerbaijanis on the Armenian side.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...#Ethnic_groups
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...#Ethnic_groups

Obviously Soviet borders that became international, were not fair to Armenians.

They were purposely designed by the Soviets(read up on who they actually were) for destabilization and leveraging reasons. No matter what propaganda they try to pass, including our tatarovski friend here, Azeris, are not, nor were they ever in control of or native to ancestral Armenian lands. All other notions are mere lies and anti-Armenian propaganda.

[Dušan]

Armenians are distinguished by the number of high-ranking criminals in Russia, the so-called "thieves in law" and, in general, Armenians are strongly associated with crime, not petty crimes. Carjacking, extortion, racketeering, real estate crimes. I mean, my attitude to Armenians didn't appear from nowhere. I know some Bakanites have simp attitude to Criminal shifted nations and societies, but I don't think it's your case.

Armenians are Jews on steroids in sense of activities, much less wise and much more violent. For example, most of Azeri and Georgian criminals in Russia are irl Jews from these countries. But Armenian ones are ethnic Armenians.

Both Balkanites and them have lived under Ottoman ocupation for centuries.
Everything what Turks have done to them, they could have done to us here in Serbia, Bosnia, Greece and Bulgaria.
We have historical solidarity with Armenians, and any remember on Ottoman ocupation, make these ties stronger.