Are Austrians Germans or is saying so racist and anti-semitic?

[Tooting Carmen]

Are Scottish attitudes that different? i can't imagine a blue collar Dundeeman having very different ideas from someone from Sunderland, they might support the EU because they feel that it doesn't make a negative difference to their community because barely any Europeans will go there anyway.

Actually, Aberdeen does have a lot of workers from around the world (the oil industry, remember?), Glasgow is no less multi-ethnic than e.g. Newcastle or Bristol, and even Edinburgh and Dundee aren't so uniformly White as you seem to imply. (Maybe they were in the past, but not now). Like I said, the main difference is that education levels in Scotland are higher on average than in the North (and Midlands). But also of course the Scots don't have this sense of regret about the loss of Empire and their changing/declining position in the world like many English people (however subtly and perhaps subconsciously) do have.

[Oliver109]

They're quite similar. Carleton Coon saw white Americans and white Canadians as a single people in 1965 when he was writing his book, Living Races of Man.

Well ancestries are more key in their differences but the cultures are very different

[Tooting Carmen]

They're quite similar. Carleton Coon saw white Americans and white Canadians as a single people in 1965 when he was writing his book, Living Races of Man.

Yet that doesn't mean that Canadians either see themselves as American or want to be united with the US (or vice versa, for that matter), and a similar principle applies to the OP question too.

[Creoda]

I can argue with it when it's a completely artificial, unhistoric, view.

Does the average Austrian believe they're not ethnically German though? I honestly don't know.

I'm sure most of them acknowledge they're ethnically German, but apparently only a minority see themselves as Germans. Kind of like Anglo-Americans acknowledging that they are ethnically English, but not Englishmen.

[Oliver109]

Actually, Aberdeen does have a lot of workers from around the world (the oil industry, remember?), Glasgow is no less multi-ethnic than e.g. Newcastle or Bristol, and even Edinburgh and Dundee aren't so uniformly White as you seem to imply. (Maybe they were in the past, but not now). Like I said, the main difference is that education levels in Scotland are higher on average than in the North (and Midlands). But also of course the Scots don't have this sense of regret about the loss of Empire and their changing/declining position in the world like many English people (however subtly and perhaps subconsciously) do have.

Glasgow doesn't or didn't feel as flooded with EU migrants as many provincial English cities or London, i went on holiday there before the EU referendum and i noticed that most of the people working there and schoolchildren were obviously Scottish unlike London or Birmingham where you really notice how unbritish they are.

[Smeagol]

Well ancestries are more key in their differences but the cultures are very different

Honestly, from my admittedly limited travels, I think there's less of a difference between Canadians and people from say, New England or the Great Lakes states, than between those Americans from the northern states and ones from the deep south (Alabama, Mississippi, etc...)

[Oliver109]

Yet that doesn't mean that Canadians either see themselves as American or want to be united with the US (or vice versa, for that matter), and a similar principle applies to the OP question too.

But isn't the culture of Austria essentially the same, especially with both countries having a strong belief in social democracy, hard graft etc

[Oliver109]

Honestly, from my admittedly limited travels, I think there's less of a difference between Canadians, and people from say, New England or the Great Lakes states, than between those Americans from the northern states and ones from the deep south (Alabama, Mississippi, etc...)

I think even New Englanders are more capitalist and individualist than Canadians who are surprisingly European in their political outlook.

[Tooting Carmen]

Glasgow doesn't or didn't feel as flooded with EU migrants as many provincial English cities or London, i went on holiday there before the EU referendum and i noticed that most of the people working there and schoolchildren were obviously Scottish unlike London or Birmingham where you really notice how unbritish they are.

Yeah but London and to a lesser but still huge extent Birmingham are quite extreme for England too. (Btw, Birmingham voted marginally to Leave, which once again illustrates my point that class and education were the main determining factors - it is still a much more working-class city than London, after all).

N.B. When visiting both cities, it is quite noticeable how Birmingham still has a somewhat bigger and more visible/obvious native White working-class than does London - for example, at Birmingham New Street station lots of the cleaners and porters are White British, which seldom happens in London's big termini. (If you do see White people in those jobs, chances are they are Polish or Romanian. )

[Tooting Carmen]

But isn't the culture of Austria essentially the same, especially with both countries having a strong belief in social democracy, hard graft etc

From what I can tell, Austria isn't as social democratic or collectivist in outlook as Germany.