LADOGAN (Apologies to forum members)

[Token]

Ladogan: I propose to give this name to the descendants of the mesocephalic and brachycephalic forest-dwelling population of northern Europe east of the Baltic in Kammkeramik times. This type is a blend of a partly mongoloid brachycephalic element with a mesocephalic form of general Upper Palaeolithic aspect; these elements are seen in crania from Lake Ladoga and Salis Roje. (See Chapter IV, section 13, pp. 125-126.) Corded and/or Danubian elements are inextricably blended here, although the mongoloid and Upper Palaeolithic elements seem at present more important. In its present form this composite type shows two numerous variants:

(a) Neo-Danubian: Strongly mixed with the old Danubian, and to a lesser extent other elements, to form the common peasant type of eastern Europe, with many local variants.

(b) East Baltic: Strongly mixed with Corded, Iron Age Nordic, and western Palaeolithic survivors to form the predominant population of much of Finland and the Baltic States.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-VIII6.htm

[cass]

please, articulate bunak's intentions.

This is the distribution of the Uralic Altai race and its Subural variant
There is no other Uralic Race in this edition of Bunak



It's definitely not the Far East

[cass]

Ladogan: I propose to give this name to the descendants of the mesocephalic and brachycephalic forest-dwelling population of northern Europe east of the Baltic in Kammkeramik times. This type is a blend of a partly mongoloid brachycephalic element with a mesocephalic form of general Upper Palaeolithic aspect; these elements are seen in crania from Lake Ladoga and Salis Roje. (See Chapter IV, section 13, pp. 125-126.) Corded and/or Danubian elements are inextricably blended here, although the mongoloid and Upper Palaeolithic elements seem at present more important. In its present form this composite type shows two numerous variants:

(a) Neo-Danubian: Strongly mixed with the old Danubian, and to a lesser extent other elements, to form the common peasant type of eastern Europe, with many local variants.

(b) East Baltic: Strongly mixed with Corded, Iron Age Nordic, and western Palaeolithic survivors to form the predominant population of much of Finland and the Baltic States.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-VIII6.htm

Can you somehow verify this concept genetically, or are you just parroting Coon?

[Token]

Can you somehow verify this concept genetically, or are you just parroting Coon?

Only if you show me Neolithic samples from Lake Ladoga. None of the modern populations circumscribed by you is even predominantly Ladogan.

[cass]

Only if you show me Neolithic samples from Lake Ladoga. None of the modern populations circumscribed by you is even predominantly Ladogan.

No part-Mongolian element penetrates into Lithuania and Poland. At least not to any greater extent than to France or Friesland.

Genetically, it's completely obvious. End of discussion.

[Token]

No part-Mongolian element penetrates into Lithuania and Poland. At least not to any greater extent than to France or Friesland.

Genetically, it's completely obvious. End of discussion.

Your calculator runs based on a crap tool made by a random internet Polack don't prove anything.

Nearly half of the Lithuanians have East Eurasian uniparentals, which are nonexistent in western Europe.

[cass]

Your calculator runs based on a crap tool made by a random internet Polack don't prove anything.

Nearly half of the Lithuanians have East Eurasian uniparentals, which are nonexistent in western Europe.

If you are talking about haplogroup Y, it has nothing to do with autosomal tests. I've checked other autosomal calkucators, and you?

[Token]

If you are talking about haplogroup Y, it has nothing to do with autosomal tests. I've checked other autosomal calkucators, and you?

I don't care about your calculators, they are worthless.

[lei.talk]

This is the distribution of the Uralic Altai race and its Subural variant

Attachment 127715
source: Bunak V.V.,Nesturkh M.F., Roginski J.J.,Antropologija. Kratkij kurs, 1941

There is no other Uralic Race in this edition of Bunak

which is disappointing:
we were hoping to learn some thing new.

in the future,
please post screen-shots
of bunak articulating his ideas regarding the uralid phenotype.

we will all benefit
from new and expert information.

[cass]

I don't care about your calculators, they are worthless.

Maybe try to exert yourself intellectually.



MDLP world 22 results
Irish
# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 49.30
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 33.10
3 West-Asian 8.16
4 North-European-Mesolithic 3.35
5 Samoedic 1.69
6 Near_East 1.48
7 Indo-Iranian 1.22

German
1 North-East-European 51.04
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 31.11
3 West-Asian 7.99
4 North-European-Mesolithic 4.64
5 Indo-Iranian 1.24
6 Near_East 1.33
7 Samoedic 1.16


Me
Components %
Pygmy 0.00
West-Asian 4.38
North-European-Mesolithic 4.00
Indo-Tibetan 0.00
Mesoamerican 0.00
Arctic-Amerind 0.00
South-America_Amerind 0.32
Indian 0.00
North-Siberean 0.00
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 29.29
Samoedic 0.17
Indo-Iranian 1.70
East-Siberean 0.00
North-East-European 58.55
South-African 0.06
North-Amerind 0.21
Sub-Saharian 0.00
East-South-Asian 0.00
Near_East 0.99
Melanesian 0.06
Paleo-Siberian 0.00
Austronesian 0.27

Serbian
# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 46.91
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 32.18
3 West-Asian 10.93
4 Near_East 4.76
5 North-European-Mesolithic 2.23
6 North-Siberean 1.16
7 Indo-Tibetan 0.87
8 Austronesian 0.42
9 Samoedic 0.39
10 Arctic-Amerind 0.15

North West Europe,
# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 48.79
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 31.35
3 West-Asian 7.93
4 North-European-Mesolithic 6.05
5 Indo-Iranian 2.24
6 Near_East 1.95
7 South-America_Amerind 0.96
8 Samoedic 0.29
9 Melanesian 0.24
10 Sub-Saharian 0.2

Celto/Germanic
1 North-East-European 44.89
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 34.96
3 West-Asian 5.69
4 North-European-Mesolithic 4.28
5 Near_East 2.50
6 North-Amerind 2.34
7 Indo-Iranian 2.30


Croat
1 North-East-European 52.11
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 30.61
3 West-Asian 8.77
4 Near_East 3.60
5 Indo-Tibetan 1.82
6 North-European-Mesolithic 1.31

Balto-Slavic
# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 66.31
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 18.52
3 North-European-Mesolithic 5.14
4 West-Asian 3.72
5 Near_East 2.45
6 South-America_Amerind 1.62
7 East-Siberean 1.33

S.French
# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 43.72
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 38.79
3 West-Asian 7.96
4 Near_East 4.97
5 North-European-Mesolithic 4.56


Czech
1 North-East-European 56.46
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 26.24
3 West-Asian 8.93
4 North-European-Mesolithic 3.01
5 Near_East 2.20
6 North-Siberean 1.04