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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoLady View Post
    They are NOT doctors, they are killers who violate their medical oath and cross the line. And they need to be "supported" ?!

    They moved from professional medicine to professional murder.

    Many of their victims are poor, mentally ill, or old and disabled people in retirement homes, including Jews.

    Presumably we learned something morally from the Third Reich and World War 2.
    I would like to think that they don't register with the aim to kill people, but because they would like to help their patients to not suffer unnecessarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hithaeglir View Post
    I would like to think that they don't register with the aim to kill people, but because they would like to enable their patients not to suffer unnecessarily.
    There are opiates for that, some very powerful ones. The patient can sleep peacefully all day even with late-stage cancer.

    If patients still want to end their life, then they can commit suicide on their own, not destroy the medical profession.
    Trust, reputation, competence, morality and ethics are critical for doctors and society to uphold.

    The truth is that the medical profession is full of psychopaths and sadists, unfortunately. Many of them are women.
    Look at the medical transgender complex (which is very profitable),
    also a form of mass medically-assisted-suicide of younger people.

    Trust in the medical profession has already been obliterated thanks to the Covid fiasco,
    which exposed some deep rot in the profession.

    And now the medical profession has crossed the line into homicide?! Western medicine is finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hithaeglir View Post
    I would like to think that they don't register with the aim to kill people, but because they would like to help their patients to not suffer unnecessarily.
    I'm sure that the Third Reich thought something similar with their medically assisted suicide program.

    "It's for their own good, spare them needless suffering..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoLady View Post
    There are opiates for that, some very powerful ones.

    If patients still do not want to suffer, then they can commit suicide on their own, not destroy the medical profession.

    The truth is that the medical profession is full of psychopaths and sadists, unfortunately. Many of them are women.
    Look at the medical transgender complex (which is very profitable),
    also a form of mass medically-assisted-suicide of younger people.

    Trust in the medical profession has already been obliterated thanks to the Covid fiasco, which exposed some deep rot in the profession.

    And now the medical profession is crossing the line into homicide?! Western medicine is finished.
    And what is the benefit to a terminally ill person to be sustained on strong opiates? They should have the choice to be euthanised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hithaeglir View Post
    And what is the benefit to a terminally ill person to be sustained on strong opiates? They should have the choice to be euthanised.
    See, this is the utilitarian logic that inevitably leads to the medical industry and bureaucracy deciding who lives and who dies.

    Individuals can make their own choice to commit suicide on their own if they like (guns should be legal),
    and there are other instant and painless ways of doing so.

    But do NOT drag the medical profession and the state into this.

    Trust, reputation, competence, morality and ethics are critical for doctors and society to uphold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoLady View Post
    See, this is the utilitarian logic that inevitably leads to the medical industry and bureaucracy deciding who lives and who dies.

    Individuals can make their own choice to commit suicide on their own if they like (guns should be legal),
    and there are other instant and painless ways of doing so.

    But do NOT drag the medical profession and the state into this.

    Trust, reputation, competence, morality and ethics are critical for doctors and society to uphold.
    I would personally like to be euthanised in a comfortable way and not suicide, if I had for example a horrible metastatic cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hithaeglir View Post
    I would personally like to be euthanised in a comfortable way and not suicide, if I had for example a horrible metastatic cancer.
    And you presume to ask someone to kill you?

    What if a child has a horrible metastatic cancer? You would presume to ask for, or recommend, assisted death?

    You know there is something called palliative care, right?

    Euthanasia is a euphemism by the way.

    And what if no one wants to kill you? What if everyone has morals and ethics?
    Even in liberal Canada there is great difficulty finding enough cold psychopathic doctors willing to kill their own patients.
    There are a few mostly female doctors who are busy fatally injecting people all day, they are killers not doctors.

    Fentanyl is very comfortable by the way, you sleep all day, you are so high.
    But as you asked, what is the benefit of opiates?
    This implies that you have already internalised the utilitarian logic for yourself,
    which is very sad. Well what is the benefit of keeping you alive if you are old then?

    That is very sad, the inability to face death. Faith helps a lot if you have it. This is the best.

    But do not attempt to corrupt the ethics of the medical profession with an unethical request and presumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoLady View Post
    And you presume to ask someone to kill you?

    What if a child has a horrible metastatic cancer? You would presume to ask for or recommend for assisted death?

    You know there is something called palliative care right?

    Euthanasia is a euphemism by the way.

    And what if no one wants to kill you? What if everyone has morals and ethics?
    Even in liberal Canada there is great difficulty finding enough cold psychopathic doctors willing to kill their own patients.

    Fentanyl is very comfortable by the way, you sleep all day, you are so high, you do not know up from down.
    But as you asked, what is the benefit of opiates?
    This implies that you have already internalised the utilitarian logic for yourself,
    which is very sad. Well what is the benefit of keeping you alive if you are old then?

    That is very sad, the inability to face death. Faith helps a lot if you have it.

    But do not attempt to corrupt the ethics of the medical profession.
    Of course, if palliative care did not offer relief anymore, I would like to have the choice to die earlier, rather than rot on a bed until I die naturally.

    Children should not have the choice for assisted dying as they do not have the maturity to take such an important decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hithaeglir View Post
    Of course, if palliative care did not offer relief anymore, I would like to have the choice to die earlier, rather than rot on a bed until I die naturally.
    Unbelievable how you perceive sickness. I feel sorry for you.

    If you have a terminally ill family member, do they receive the same attitude from you?
    Or are they equally cold and utilitarian? I feel sorry for any children who encounter this. Liberalism is so dark and cold.

    Or do you feel this way only about yourself or strangers?

    Sufficient opiates provide relief to the very end. Morphos (sleep) is the twin of Thanatos (death) after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hithaeglir View Post
    Children should not have the choice for assisted dying as they do not have the maturity to take such an important decision.
    You would presume to ask for, or recommend, assisted death for a child, baby, or family member who is dying?

    You know, to prevent them from "rotting on a bed"?

    God forbid they die naturally! After all, what is the "benefit" of dying naturally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoLady View Post
    Unbelievable how you perceive sickness. I feel sorry for you.

    If you have a terminally ill family member, do they receive the same attitude from you?
    Or are they equally cold and utilitarian? I feel sorry for any children who encounter this. Liberalism is so dark and cold.

    Or do you feel this way only about yourself or strangers?



    You would presume to ask for, or recommend, assisted death for a child, baby, or family member who is dying?

    You know, to prevent them from "rotting on a bed"?

    God forbid they die naturally! After all, what is the "benefit" of dying naturally?
    I was only speaking about myself.

    My relatives and partner can make their own decisions about their bodies and deaths.

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