Israel vs. Palestine Rebirth

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Oh, absolutely! According to that logic, the U.S. should definitely hand over Louisiana back to France without any hesitation. After all, what's a little historical context and sovereignty among friends, right?

He's stupid but you're dishonest. You know very well much of the land was taken at gunpoint. 700,000 refugees.... not 700,000 people who sold their property for a few shackles.

What's amusing about you is you have no issue with being dishonest. It's as if you were raised to feel being deceptive is acceptable.

[Florstadt]

He's stupid but you're dishonest. You know very well much of the land was taken at gunpoint. 700,000 refugees.... not 700,000 people who sold their property for a few shackles.

What's amusing about you is you have no issue with being dishonesty. It's as if you were raised to feel being deceptive is acceptable.

He is surely smarter than you.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

He is surely smarter than you.

You're not and so he certainly isn't.

Back on subject: where did you get that quote?

[Stuck]

So 700, 000 Palestinians weren't chased off their land at gunpoint?



I'm just going to ignore you. You're clearly ignorant of this subject and too stupid to be informed.

you are knowledgeable and lived in thet time. according to your version, the jews came from europe to palestine with guns in hand and started driving hundreds of thousands of palestinians out of their homes? such a crazy version can only be defended by a person who easily believes disinformation, conspiracy theories and russian sovetian propaganda.

[Dušan]

were forced to live in Europe does not make them Europeans.

Who forced them to come to Eastern Europe and Slavic lands?
Why they didnt return to their homeland earlier instead of settling among Slavs?

[Stuck]

You're not and so he certainly isn't.

Back on subject: where did you get that quote?

ok, let's imagine a situation where the Jews did exactly what you describe. so you want to tell us that the Jews and Israel will cease to exist and instead there will be Palestine with corruption, Islamic terrorists, poverty and hatred of western society?

is that exactly what do you want? a backward Levant without technology and medicine without high security?

[Florstadt]

Who forced them to come to Eastern Europe and Slavic lands?
Why they didnt return to their homeland earlier instead of settling among Slavs?

Ah, Dusan, the question of who "forced" Jews to come to Eastern Europe and Slavic lands is quite complex. It's not like there was a grand invitation with a fancy wax seal delivered to every Jewish household. Instead, it was more of a mix of push and pull factors. You see, Jews were fleeing persecution and economic hardship in other parts of Europe, and Eastern Europe seemed like a relatively safer and more promising destination. Plus, there were these charters and privileges being dangled by rulers like King Casimir III, making the region seem like a Jewish haven of sorts.

As for why they didn't high-tail it back to their homeland earlier, well, it's not like they had a direct line to the Jewish homeland hotline. Plus, once they settled among the Slavs, they kinda got used to the place. It's like when you visit your friend's house for the weekend and end up staying for years because the snacks are good and the Wi-Fi is reliable. So yeah, Jews just kinda made themselves at home among the Slavs, and the rest is history.

But why did the Jews move into Europe in the first place?
Ah, the Romans, ever the gracious hosts, couldn't resist the temptation to bring along some Jewish guests to Europe, courtesy of their conquests. Because what's a conquering empire without a few slaves to spice up the landscape? Of course, the Jews must have been thrilled to leave behind the warm sands of their homeland for the chilly embrace of Roman hospitality. After all, who wouldn't want to exchange freedom for a lifetime of servitude in the name of cultural diversity?

[Stuck]

Who forced them to come to Eastern Europe and Slavic lands?

Jews were forced to migrate to Eastern Europe by pogroms from the Crusades.

Why they didnt return to their homeland earlier instead of settling among Slavs?

They didn't immigrate to the homeland Levant, because they didn't have any nationalist leader to convince about returning to the land of they ancestors.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Oh, boy.... not good... We need a Sad Shmuly.

The only historical source for the false claim that Hajj Amin al-Hussayni was involved in the decision-making process concerning the “Final Solution” is the postwar evidence regarding Dieter Wisliceny’s wartime talks with two Jews, both of whom were involved in rescue attempts, Endre Steiner in Slovakia in 1943 and Rezső Kaszner in Hungary in 1944: they both quoted Wisliceny in their statements. Wisliceny confirmed in his postwar comment on Steiner’s postwar affidavit of February 12, 1946, that that is what he had told Steiner. However, in his detailed affidavit of July 26, 1946, regarding his contacts with the Mufti, this claim is not suggested or even mentioned. That is, the fact that he had told this to Steiner and Kasztner does not mean that it was true—German officials often fooled Jews in encounters between them.https://www.yadvashem.org/docs/haj-a...-husseini.html

Mr. Wiliceny has been put to rest and so now we wait for the quote.

Not that it matters but it amuses me because of the trickery.

[Florstadt]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. From those words alone you can interpret genocide. You're reading it with 20/20 glasses.

"I'm going to destroy my enemies."

That means defeating them soundly. It could also mean mass murder them but it certainly means defeating them to the point they are no longer a problem.

btw, where did you get that quote? I googled it and it doesn't appear anywhere.

Documents on German Foreign Policy 1918–1945, Series D, Vol XIII, London, 1964, p. 881
Akten zur deutschen auswärtigen Politik, Series D, Vol. XIII, 2, No. 515
Hitlers Weisungen für die Kriegführung 1939–1945, ed. by Walther Hubatsch (Frankfurt: Bernard und Graefe, 1962) pp. 129–39