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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Oh, this article from early December?
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...t-67629181.amp

    Much of this was later referenced by the NY Times article that was later debunked.

    Select the highlights and we'll go through each. You can also let me know where the rape victim/s speak out since you believe the victims, of course.
    I'll be sure to do that. I mean, right after I arrange my sock drawer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic View Post
    I'll be sure to do that. I mean, right after I arrange my sock drawer.
    Your article itself states it got most of it's information from the Zaka organization. This is the same organization that claimed 40 beheaded babies.

    That is your evidence. People saying they saw this and saw that but no medical evidence, and a shady organization (google Zaka) As I said before, the only person named that was said to have been raped was debunked by the family themselves when they said the medical report didn't reveal rape.

    You want to try googling another article? It's the same shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florstadt View Post
    Hamas, Al Jazeera admit: Story of IDF rapes in Gaza hospital fabricated


    https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-793560

    "Former manager of Al-Jazeera, Yasser Abu Hilala: "It became clear from Hamas investigations that the story of the rape of women at Shifa Hospital is fabricated, and intended to provoke the nation's outrage."
    Did any these Jewish rags ever take down the 40 beheaded babies or baby in the oven false claims? Ironically this isn't the W you think. It revealss al Jazeera is more responsible than Jewish newspapers.
    Last edited by Colonel Frank Grimes; 03-25-2024 at 12:15 PM.

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    This is another big L for Israel if it happens.

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    “the mission team found that several fully naked or partially naked bodies from the waist down were recovered – mostly women – with hands tied and shot multiple times, often in the head”

    Elizabeth and CFG riddle me this.

    Why were fully or partially naked female bodies much more commonly depicted than male bodies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florstadt View Post
    Hamas, Al Jazeera admit: Story of IDF rapes in Gaza hospital fabricated


    https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-793560

    "Former manager of Al-Jazeera, Yasser Abu Hilala: "It became clear from Hamas investigations that the story of the rape of women at Shifa Hospital is fabricated, and intended to provoke the nation's outrage."
    Moral of the story, do not trust a terrorist organization.

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    UN adopted Gaza cease-fire resolution. Netanyahu is fuming, cancelled trip to US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    UN adopted Gaza cease-fire resolution. Netanyahu is fuming, cancelled trip to US.
    Thank you for the good news.

    Do you have a link for that?
    Spoiler!

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    The USA abstained instead of vetoing.
    https://apnews.com/article/un-gaza-c...a2c8d2e62a6632

    UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The United Nations Security Council on Monday issued its first demand for a cease-fire in Gaza, with the U.S. angering Israel by abstaining from the vote. Israel responded by canceling a visit to Washington by a high-level delegation in the strongest public clash between the allies since the war began.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accused the U.S. of “retreating” from a “principled position” by allowing the vote to pass without conditioning the cease-fire on the release of hostages held by Hamas.

    The resolution was approved 14-0 by the 15-member council after the U.S. decided not to use its veto power on the measure, which also demanded the release of all hostages taken captive during Hamas’ Oct. 7 surprise attack in southern Israel. The chamber broke into loud applause after the vote.

    The U.S. vetoed past Security Council cease-fire resolutions in large part because of the failure to tie them directly to the release of hostages, the failure to condemn Hamas’ attacks and the delicacy of ongoing negotiations. American officials have argued that the cease-fire and hostage releases are linked, while Russia, China and many other council members favored unconditional calls for cease-fires.

    The resolution approved Monday demands the release of hostages but does not make it a condition for the cease-fire for the month of Ramadan, which ends in April.

    Hamas said it welcomed the U.N.'s move but said the cease-fire needs to be permanent.


    “We confirm our readiness to engage in an immediate prisoner exchange process that leads to the release of prisoners on both sides,” the group said. For months, the militant group has sought a deal that includes a complete end to the conflict.

    The U.S. decision to abstain comes at a time of growing tensions between President Joe Biden’s administration and Netanyahu over Israel’s prosecution of the war, the high number of civilian casualties and the limited amounts of humanitarian assistance reaching Gaza. The two countries have also clashed over Netanyahu’s rejection of a Palestinian state, Jewish settler violence against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and the expansion of settlements there.

    In addition, the well-known antagonism between Netanyahu and Biden — which dates from Biden’s tenure as vice president — deepened after Biden questioned Israel’s strategy in combating Hamas.

    Then Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, a Biden ally, suggested that Netanyahu was not operating in Israel’s best interests and called for Israel to hold new elections. Biden signaled his approval of Schumer’s remarks, prompting a rebuke from Netanyahu.

    During its U.S. visit, the Israeli delegation was to present White House officials with its plans for a possible ground invasion of Rafah, a city on the Egyptian border in southern Gaza where over 1 million Palestinian civilians have sought shelter from the war.

    White House national security spokesman John Kirby said the U.S. had been “consistent” in its support for a cease-fire as part of a hostage deal. “The reason we abstained is because this resolution text did not condemn Hamas,” Kirby said.

    He said the administration was “very disappointed” at the cancellation of talks on “viable alternatives” to a ground invasion of Rafah.

    The vote came after Russia and China vetoed a U.S.-sponsored resolution Friday that would have supported “an immediate and sustained cease-fire” in the Israeli-Hamas conflict. That resolution featured a weakened link between a cease-fire and the release of hostage, leaving it open to interpretation, and no time limit.

    The United States warned that the resolution approved Monday could hurt negotiations to halt the hostilities, raising the possibility of another veto, this time by the Americans. The talks involve the U.S., Egypt and Qatar.

    Because Ramadan ends April 9, the cease-fire demand would last for just two weeks, though the draft says the pause in fighting should lead “to a permanent sustainable cease-fire.”

    U.S. Ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield said the resolution “spoke out in support of the ongoing diplomatic efforts,” adding that negotiators were “getting closer” to a deal for a cease-fire with the release of all hostages, “but we’re not there yet.”

    She urged the council and U.N. members across the world to “speak out and demand unequivocally that Hamas accepts the deal on the table.”

    Thomas-Greenfield said the U.S. abstained because “certain edits” the U.S. requested were ignored, including adding a condemnation of Hamas.

    The resolution, put forward by the 10 elected council members, was backed by Russia and China and the 22-nation Arab Group at the United Nations.

    Algeria’s U.N. ambassador, the Arab representative on the council, thanked the council for “finally” demanding a cease-fire.

    “We look forward to the commitment and the compliance of the Israeli occupying power with this resolution, for them to put an end to the bloodbath without any conditions, to end the suffering of the Palestinian people.” he said.

    Shortly before Monday’s vote, the elected members changed the final draft resolution to drop the word “permanent” from its demand that a Ramadan cease-fire should lead to a “sustainable cease-fire,” apparently at the request of the United States.

    Russia complained that dropping the word could allow Israel “to resume its military operation in the Gaza Strip at any moment” after Ramadan and proposed an amendment to restore it. That amendment was defeated because it failed to get the minimum nine “yes” vote — with three council members voting in favor, the United States voting against, and 11 countries abstaining.

    Since the start of the war, the Security Council has adopted two resolutions on the worsening humanitarian situation in Gaza, but none has called for a cease-fire.

    More than 32,000 Palestinians in Gaza have been killed during the fighting, according to the Gaza Health Ministry. The agency does not differentiate between civilians and combatants in its count, but says women and children make up two-thirds of the dead.

    Gaza also faces a dire humanitarian emergency, with a report from an international authority on hunger warning March 18 that “famine is imminent” in northern Gaza and that escalation of the war could push half of the territory’s 2.3 million people to the brink of starvation.

    The United States has vetoed three resolutions demanding a cease-fire in Gaza, the most recent an Arab-backed measure on Feb. 20. That resolution was supported by 13 council members with one abstention, reflecting the overwhelming support for a cease-fire.

    Russia and China vetoed a U.S.-sponsored resolution in late October calling for humanitarian pauses in the fighting to deliver aid, the protection of civilians and a halt to arming Hamas. They said it did not reflect global calls for a cease-fire.

    They again vetoed a U.S. resolution Friday, calling it ambiguous and saying it was not the direct demand to end the fighting that much of the world seeks.

    That vote became another showdown involving world powers that are locked in tense disputes elsewhere, with the United States taking criticism for not being tough enough against its ally Israel, even as tensions between the two countries rise.

    Thomas-Greenfield accused Russia and China of using the Gaza conflict “as a political cudgel, to try to divide this council at a time when we need to come together.”
    Spoiler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Elizabeth~ View Post
    Thank you for the good news.

    Do you have a link for that?
    It's headline news and I see you found it.

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