Are Swedes really the most gracile of Northern Europeans?

[Watersater79]

Does anyone get the sense that Sweden's Nordid admixture is overstated? Apparently, the Swedes bear an average bizygomatic width of 136 mm and a bigonial width of 103 mm. But to me they seem broader-faced than the Dutch and English, bearing a shit-tonne of Borreby/East Baltid types on a level that one feels compelled to disagree with the statement that Sweden is the most 'Nordid' country of Europe. Interestingly enough, in a Scandinavian context, I have heard comments that Norwegians are known as having the most 'elongated' features (which is seemingly true for the east, but 100% not for the west) and that the Swedes appear more brachycephalic.

[Immanenz]

maybe the average is- its either England or Sweden- but cares for some hypothetical averages? Some nerds on apricity i guess

[Stryglogg]

North Atlantid and Keltic Nordid are not purely Nordic types.

[Watersater79]

North Atlantid and Keltic Nordid are not purely Nordic types.

Technically, neither is the Hallstatt. No type is pure as such, although the Hallstatt is a bit closer to 'pure' than others. What's your perspective in relation to the thread?

[Stryglogg]

Technically, neither is the Hallstatt. No type is pure as such, although the Hallstatt is a bit closer to 'pure' than others. What's your perspective in relation to the thread?

What do you mean when you say that Hallstatt is not purely Nordic?

[Septentrion]

What do you mean when you say that Hallstatt is not purely Nordic?

The Hallstatt is metrically the closest to the Iron Age skeletal material from the Hallstatt culture. Today, it could be considered the purest, however the purest of the pure is the Iron Age Nordid itself. Again today, we may call the Hallstatt Iron Age Nordid. In other words, there is a deviation but its pretty slight.

[Septentrion]

Does anyone get the sense that Sweden's Nordid admixture is overstated? Apparently, the Swedes bear an average bizygomatic width of 136 mm and a bigonial width of 103 mm. But to me they seem broader-faced than the Dutch and English, bearing a shit-tonne of Borreby/East Baltid types on a level that one feels compelled to disagree with the statement that Sweden is the most 'Nordid' country of Europe. Interestingly enough, in a Scandinavian context, I have heard comments that Norwegians are known as having the most 'elongated' features (which is seemingly true for the east, but 100% not for the west) and that the Swedes appear more brachycephalic.

In the Iron Age Nordid sense, Sweden is the most racially Nordid nation in Europe. Coon even goes on to call Sweden and Southern Norway as a «*reservoir*» for the Nordid race.

[Septentrion]

North Atlantid and Keltic Nordid are not purely Nordic types.

Oh well, they are still pretty much Nordic racial types. The closest to the purest is the Hallstatt. However the purest from the Iron Age times is no more.

[Watersater79]

What do you mean when you say that Hallstatt is not purely Nordic?

Like I said, Sweden seems to have a significant Borreby-East Baltid element. Do you think of Swedes as leaning towards the ‘longer-faced’ side of things?

[Septentrion]

Does anyone get the sense that Sweden's Nordid admixture is overstated? Apparently, the Swedes bear an average bizygomatic width of 136 mm and a bigonial width of 103 mm. But to me they seem broader-faced than the Dutch and English, bearing a shit-tonne of Borreby/East Baltid types on a level that one feels compelled to disagree with the statement that Sweden is the most 'Nordid' country of Europe. Interestingly enough, in a Scandinavian context, I have heard comments that Norwegians are known as having the most 'elongated' features (which is seemingly true for the east, but 100% not for the west) and that the Swedes appear more brachycephalic.

Sorry to all of you! The fact is that the Swedes are the most Nordid people in Europe and also the most gracile in Northern Europe. The mean bigonial width of Sweden is lower than that of Great Britain. So regardless of CM strains present in the Swedish population (mainly Borreby, Dalofaelid, Brunn), it isn't enough to take away their Nordid crown.