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    Default Evidence for dynastic succession among early Celtic elites

    The early Iron Age in France, Germany, and Switzerland, known as the West-Hallstattkreis, stands out as featuring the earliest evidence for supra-regional organisation north of the Alps. Often referred to as ‘early Celtic‘, suggesting tentative connections to later cultural phenomena, its societal and population structure remain enigmatic. Here, we present genomic and isotope data from 31 individuals from this context. We identify three biologically related groups spanning multiple elite burials as far as 100 km apart, supported by transregional individual mobility inferred from isotope data. These include a close biological relationship between two of the richest burial mounds of the Hallstatt culture. Bayesian modelling points to an avuncular relationship between the two individuals, which may suggest a practice of matrilineal dynastic succession in early Celtic elites. We show that their ancestry is shared on a broad geographic scale from Iberia throughout Central-Eastern Europe, undergoing decline after the late Iron Age.

    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB73566

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    Distance to:	Celtic
    0.01161263	French_Auvergne_(n=27)
    0.01177486	French_Occitanie_(n=36)
    0.01435703	French_Ardèche:EXPL0263
    0.01686151	Titane_friend_scaled
    0.01767648	E_M81_I3A_half-nephew_scaled
    0.01806441	French_Vendée:EXPL0202
    0.01863335	French_Maine-et-Loire:EXPL0236
    0.01873778	E_M81_I3A_mother_scaled
    0.01898821	CelticGerman_father-in-law_scaled
    0.01902706	Swiss_French_(n=8)
    0.01904415	CelticGerman_father-in-law_cousin_scaled
    0.01927343	BelgianC_(n=15)
    0.01928974	Swiss_German_(n=8)
    0.01960178	French_Corrèze:EXPL0044
    0.02008938	French_Paris_(n=11)
    0.02009195	French_Charente-Maritime:EXPL0012
    0.02011411	French_Vendée:EXPL0234
    0.02015433	French_Sarthe:EXPL0120
    0.02015624	French_Occitanie:T_46
    0.02047547	BelgianC:5434289075_R01C01
    0.02060498	French_Auvergne:C_21
    0.02096215	BelgianC:5434289074_R03C01
    0.02098059	French_Auvergne:C_82
    0.02103034	French_Gironde:EXPL0241
    0.02110907	French_Auvergne:C_37

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    Seems that this confirms early Celts were closest to modern central French, just as I claimed. Great news!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    Seems that this confirms early Celts were closest to modern central French, just as I claimed. Great news!
    Yeah. Also, they are close to Gaulish from France in general
    Some Gaulish are basque shifted (not because of "iberian admixed" but because of their excess of WHG)

    Modern french are in the same local diversity (north to south, west to east) that Iron Age Gaulish from France (and other area) and Hallstat

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    Distance to: CDG_scaled
    0.04114848 Celtic:LAN001
    0.04544712 Celtic:LWB002
    0.05273013 Celtic:MBG017
    0.05436026 Celtic:MBG009_merged
    0.05478262 Celtic:LWB003
    0.05525564 Celtic:HEU002
    0.05704633 Celtic:MBG008
    0.05787947 Celtic:MBG007
    0.05818125 Celtic:APG003_merged
    0.06065121 Celtic:MBG003
    0.06087689 Celtic:HOC002
    0.06304714 Celtic:HEU001
    0.06386754 Celtic:MBG005
    0.06541268 Celtic:APG001_merged
    0.06684803 Celtic:LWB001
    0.06813242 Celtic:APG002
    0.06913517 Celtic:MBG010
    0.06944177 Celtic:HOC004
    0.06987493 Celtic:HOC003
    0.07347892 Celtic:MBG006
    0.07490911 Celtic:MBG015
    0.08547959 Celtic:MBG004
    0.08864863 Celtic:MBG016
    0.09681731 Celtic:HOC001_merged

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 2.7676% / 0.02767556
    54.4 Celtic:LAN001
    24.8 Celtic:LWB002
    13.2 Celtic:MBG003
    7.6 Celtic:MBG005

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 5.3977% / 0.05397726
    100.0 Celtic


    I guess Insular Celts like me aren't descended from Continental Celts or we are a combination of Continental Celts and something else.

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    Distance to: Beowulf_Scaled
    0.02274799 Celtic


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    I screwed up the 3rd piece. This is accurate now.

    I'm 60% of the first group here 25% of the next and 15% of the next when you plug those coordinates against the ancient pop averages on the official site I guess and I think it looks fairly accurate for me but it's less Swedish than in modern times so either the swedes were half Scottish or partly German and Scottish and then the Swedish that shows up on my test and it's probably like 20% on this calculator which is much less than what it actually is I'm 50% Swedish at least the last 500 years except for a couple maybe one Estonian that I saw and potentially one great-grandparent was Norwegian

    Target: Celtic:LAN001 (60%)
    Distance: 2.6125% / 0.02612497 | ADC: 2x RC
    42.8 Scotland_EIA
    34.0 Sweden_IA.SG
    23.2 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG


    Target: Celtic:LWB002 (25.4%)
    Distance: 2.6407% / 0.02640722 | ADC: 2x RC
    54.0 Germany_Lech_BellBeaker
    46.0 Germany_Lech_EBA


    Target: Celtic:APG003_merged (14.6%)
    Distance: 2.8045% / 0.02804545 | ADC: 2x RC
    54.0 ITA_Rome_Renaissance
    46.0 SVK_LIA_La_Tene


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    Thanks for posting I want to plot these on a chart and see how they plot like my top pieces how they plot to my official coordinates and to maybe some other chromosome coordinates I've made I suggest you guys average if you have two data sets or more do an average of each chromosome plot like on the k13 on Gedmatch so you can do 23andMe and Ancestry 22-chr coords and then average them with that tool on explore your dna.com and you can get a nice average between your data sets a fair of 50/50 average which produces interesting results I'm not entirely sure if it's the best way but at least it gives an average anyway have a good day
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