Human Development Index by Latin American nation 2024

[Incal]

Have you met any Colombians in Peru? I am not saying that they'd be anything like as numerous as the Venezuelans who've gone there in recent years, but have you met some even so?

Yeah sure, 50% are criminals 50% are decent.

[axel.aleman]

There are some snobbish and racist elitist types, but I wouldn't say they are any more prevalent than in many other countries, and the point is that the Black and Mulatto middle-classes are actually quite sizeable (certainly compared to Brazil, for example, where even in Bahia it is not that common to find Black professionals).

Diría que al revés, Brasil es mejor ejemplo que Colombia

[SilverKnight]

I fantasize every day about the what if of Santa Maria del Puerto de la Verdadera Paz (the Spanish city that used to stand over what today is the nightmare called Port Au Prince). Verapaz, for short, look it up.

The DR was, and to an extent still is, poorer than 50% of the Anglophone Caribbean with or without Haitian immigrants, and its diaspora is comparable in size to the Cuban one despite not having had a Communist regime.

False. Stop coping

...And most dominicans (now a days) leave the island not out of necessity but laziness.
For instance, my situation is none of the above, my parents came here at first as an adventure to explore and such and ended up staying, back in DR dad had his own architectural business and mom was a stay-at-home mom/ part time banker, the economy was decent, and we had money.
DR has its flaw, lots of it, but mainly when it comes to the f*** crime and the inefficiencies in both the private and public sectors, other than that it's booming economically, and you have everything to need to live comfortably and feel like you're in a first world nation if you're in a good decent area somewhere in the country.

[CosmoLady]

Yes, I still cannot get past your praise for Franco and Trujillo.

Caudillos are not all bad, Franco and Trujillo were among the best,
they were de-facto absolute monarchs without hereditary successors.
This is a very traditional style of rule for the Spanish world.
Liberal democracy is an Anglo thing, and does not apply to an unstable or poor country.
Caudillos ideally help to stabilise a country and society,
establishing the rule of law and creating economic prosperity,
which are preconditions for liberal democracy in the first place.

We can see how successful caudillismo is in El Salvador currently,
compared to the liberal democratic alternative.
Also notice how Ecuador is moving in this direction, possibly even Argentina.
Even the leftist authoritarian regimes are a form of caudillismo that is ironically more acceptable to left-liberal intellectuals.

The least beneficial anti-communist caudillos are those that are obscenely corrupt,
or those who are the "Peronist" type,
who expand government and spend too much money that they do not have,
leading to debt and long-term high inflation like in Argentina or Turkey.

[Andullero]

Caudillos are not all bad, Franco and Trujillo were among the best,
they were de-facto absolute monarchs without hereditary successors.
This is a very traditional style of rule for the Spanish world.
Liberal democracy is an Anglo thing, and does not apply to an unstable or poor country.
Caudillos ideally help to stabilise a country and society,
establishing the rule of law and creating economic prosperity,
which are preconditions for liberal democracy in the first place.

We can see how successful caudillismo is in El Salvador currently,
compared to the liberal democratic alternative.
Also notice how Ecuador is moving in this direction, possibly even Argentina.
Even the leftist authoritarian regimes are a form of caudillismo that is ironically more acceptable to left-liberal intellectuals.

The least beneficial anti-communist caudillos are those that are obscenely corrupt,
or those who are the "Peronist" type,
who expand government and spend too much money that they do not have,
leading to debt and long-term high inflation like in Argentina or Turkey.

Damn, lady, you really get us. Thank you.

But yeah, Caesarism is part and parcel of our cultural idiosyncracies, and I'd say, this also runs true for the rest of the Latin world, generally speaking.

[alnortedelsur]

Vaya! que bueno saber que estas estadisticas al menos no ponen a Venezuela al mismo nivel que Haiti!

Algo es algo, supongo.

[Tooting Carmen]

Vaya! que bueno saber que estas estadisticas al menos no ponen a Venezuela al mismo nivel que Haiti!

Algo es algo, supongo.

It never was. And there have been incremental improvements since the last HDI study in 2021 - it is better than Bolivia now, for starters.

[Incal]

Paraguay is not southern cone. I know some maps includes it, but the only similar thing with the rest is its location (it's near) and that they drink mate. That's is. Not cultural ties or anything while the other 3 countries share a lot, including leading most poles in South America or Latam.

PS: obviously it shares cultural ties with the frontier, but that's it.

[Tooting Carmen]

Diría que al revés, Brasil es mejor ejemplo que Colombia

What do you mean? Even in Northern/NE Brazil, the middle classes are overwhelmingly White (or light Pardos at most).

[Jingle Bell]

Brazil at 0.760 kinda suprised me, bcs i saw a projection by states that were abt 0.800 in most states:

By that map Brazil its abt 0.808, but idk if its a reliable source.