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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmob View Post
    Let's get some things straight, free of charge.

    1) Firstly, the only surviving Yamnaya languages to this day are three: Albanian, Armenian and Greek.

    The rest of you IE-speakers are Corded-Ware (GER) intermediates. This is the population you should try to model yourself with and not Yamnaya/Catacomb.

    2) Secondly, anything above 3% in your distance% might as well be thrown in the trash, given the proximity of the PCA clustering. And no, your 'balto-slavic drift' is not a thing, it's a mere excuse davidski came up with for his dimensional manipulation to cluster you, eastern euros, where you are. No such 'drift' exists in f-stats.

    3) Lastly, if you are not R1b-Z2103*, stop LARPing as Yamnaya, it's the equivalent of someone bragging how much his own bloodline was cucked by foreign/invading lineages, it's cringe. Better focus on your own ancestral populations (see Corded Ware example above).

    For some reason a lot of people here take G25 religiously and think that Davidski's artistic interpretation of genetic drifts/bottlenecks is legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vessna View Post
    Link your post for people to read and educate themselves instead of just boosting your ego by insulting others

    OK, princess, consider yourself special for making me repeat myself.

    1) Use geographical/historical relevant populations for your own ancestral>modern ethnic group. There's no one-size-fits-all solution, West Asians should use Armenia_BA proxies, Eastern Euros should opt for adjacent Corded-Ware references, Western Euros for CW and Beakers, among others, etc.

    2) Admixtools2 tutorial for windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russki View Post
    For some reason a lot of people here take G25 religiously and think that Davidski's artistic interpretation of genetic drifts/bottlenecks is legit.

    I've been following him for over a decade , for some reason he was obsessed with PCA plots since the very beginning (trying to prove that south europe is a levant-shifted version of N.Europe, using various pca plots, clines or whatever he calls those). I never understood that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmob View Post
    Imagine thinking distances of 5%+ have any validity.

    Also, if you are not R1b-Z2103*, like kessaras, you are a LARP.
    I am R1b-L23-L277.1.
    Is that downstream of R1b-Z2103*?
    I am sure I will score very low Yamnaya in my autosomal DNA since my ancestors did not speak an Indo-European language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinshen View Post
    Is that downstream of R1b-Z2103*?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vessna View Post
    How are Belarusians in between wogs and westerners? English and French have less yamnaya according to this chart.
    Belarussians, are simply Belarussians. Cass will never see the truth, that he's more western than the English, and not more eastern. Good luck to this Polish bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmob View Post
    Yes.
    Thanks. How can I Use this calculator? I only have 23&me raw data and GEDMATCH results.
    Last edited by chinshen; 03-18-2024 at 10:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    hopefully, you will make a good calculator in the future man, using admixture. I count on you. I have not enough energy rn, nor the skills.

    I am not gonna do that.

    The fact there's not a 'right-list'/outgroup, outside of admixtools usage, to check for validity means the results will always be skewed/overfit. But, don't get me wrong, PCAs like g25 have their usefulness, when you want a 'quick-and-dirty' method to get a rough idea of what you're dealing with in the first place.

    Also, for moderns, PCA like g25, with good coverage to the template (davidski uses 23ame V3 raw template) is quite good, the problems pop-up with the ancient samples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    Anyway we got the data. Slavs are right there in between wogs and westerners in terms of yamnaya rank. What differentiates the slavs is high WHG type ancestry, not specifically yamnaya.

    Somehow, this is not confirmed in the model used by OP. Maybe someone else will prepare a different model than the G25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cass View Post
    Somehow, this is not confirmed in the model used by OP. Maybe someone else will prepare a different model than the G25.
    the G25 shouldn't be taken into account. Davidski's retirement plan. I trust more you and Vessna, than Davidski.

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