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Are Spaniards closer to French or Italians?
As a Mexican with a good dose of Spanish ancestry as well the majority of Mexican population. I'm interested to know.
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Genetically or culturally. Which were you thinking of first?Originally Posted by Laredo
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Genetically.
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If I remember correctly, we went out closer to the southern French and then to the Italians.
https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.
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Depends on the region.
French from PACA and Rhone Alpes are definitely closer to Italians for instance
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The Balearics are closest to Northern Italians among Iberians and unlike most are closer to some regions than French_South:
Code:Distance to: Spanish_Mallorca 0.01821317 Italian_Aosta_Valley 0.01853802 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige 0.02139440 Italian_Veneto 0.02403935 Italian_Bergamo 0.02647506 Italian_Northeast 0.02880811 Italian_Piedmont 0.02900970 Italian_Lombardy 0.02941886 French_South 0.03267611 Italian_Liguria 0.03268092 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada 0.03517935 Italian_Emilia Distance to: Spanish_Baleares 0.02030374 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige 0.02236017 Italian_Aosta_Valley 0.02320945 Italian_Veneto 0.02442299 Italian_Bergamo 0.02854677 Italian_Lombardy 0.03000962 Italian_Northeast 0.03034408 Italian_Piedmont 0.03042458 French_South 0.03387672 Italian_Liguria 0.03526690 Italian_Emilia 0.03727849 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada Distance to: Spanish_Eivissa 0.02269487 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige 0.02487654 Italian_Bergamo 0.02523175 Italian_Veneto 0.02524225 Italian_Aosta_Valley 0.02788981 Italian_Lombardy 0.02926579 Italian_Piedmont 0.03130486 French_South 0.03182874 Italian_Liguria 0.03217823 Italian_Northeast 0.03415160 Italian_Emilia 0.03942111 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada Distance to: Spanish_Menorca 0.02237521 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige 0.02518129 Italian_Bergamo 0.02556130 Italian_Veneto 0.02729931 Italian_Lombardy 0.03035149 Italian_Piedmont 0.03041169 Italian_Liguria 0.03094800 Italian_Aosta_Valley 0.03172422 French_South 0.03338887 Italian_Northeast 0.03461223 Italian_Emilia 0.04143129 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada
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Very interesting thanks!
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Wasn't Aosta valley like very central French genetically? It is also among my closest samples
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It's not so surprising because "French_south" is only the beige regions below on this pca, and even the "Haute Garonne" region (+ symbol) are already back in the main French cluster. "Pyrenées Atlantiques" region is basically half French, half Basque.
The only region that is actually shifted towards Spain there is "Hautes-Pyrenées" at the border. I guess the Catalans from "Pyrenées Orientales" most likely as well.
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They are more or less half North Italian, half French (main cluster). Many do have recent or more distant French ancestry, in the same way that Catalans on the other side of the border are about halfsies.
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