Terrorist attack in Moscow

[Blondie]

Putin mentions what suits his book.

Im not saying that ukrainians did it, but why do you think that its so impossible? Their government and Zelensky are totally insane, so i can imagine everything.

[Hektor12]

Married couple, Lilit Israelyan (Armenian) and Vugar Huseynov (Azerbaijani), were killed by terrorists at the Crocus City Hall in Moscow. They had a 1.5 year old child.

Jewish victims of jewish terrorism. Sad.

[Jehan]

Im not saying that ukrainians did it, but why do you think that its so impossible? Their government and Zelensky are totally insane, so i can imagine everything.

But do they have the contact, the influence, the possibility to organyze it?
I have no doubt that a not negligable number of central asian hate russians and would do stuff like that if they can get away with it

Maybe I'am wrong but the tadjik story is just crazy for me. Like a guy he doesn't know gave him 5 000 thousands euros to commit a mass murder and they just said "ok..."

[Smaland]

"Mukhammadsobir Faizov, 19, was brought into the courthouse in a wheelchair and seemed barely conscious throughout the entire proceeding. [Photo credit:] AFP via Getty Images"

Harrowing (video) footage appears to show Russian forces torturing suspects in the Moscow concert hall terror attack — with one fed his own ear and another writhing in agony from electric shocks to his genitals.

Footage circulated online appears to show members of the security forces cutting off the ear of one of the suspects in the attack that killed more than 130 people — and then stuffing it in his mouth, according to The Guardian.

One of the suspects was later seen in court with a huge bandage covering his ear area.
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Full story in the New York Post

[CosmoLady]

If the USA hadn't invaded Iraq I doubt there would be an ISIS today, in that sense they bear responsibility. Does the CIA control ISIS? No.

Remember, ISIS has no leader, only independent cells that appear spontaneously. How convenient.
Some of these cells are probably set up by agents of various intelligence agencies,
and they recruit various losers to be suicide bombers or mass shooters or whatever.

To some extent,
the CIA may control ISIS, or part of ISIS, through the intelligence services of friendly Arab countries,
as well as intelligence contractors and informants.

Throughout history,
the CIA has wanted to create divisions in subversive movements (such as against Al Qaeda in the Islamist movement),
to gain control of them and use them as weapons.

Notice how ISIS became prominent on the world scene AFTER Obama pulled out of Iraq,
AFTER the Arab Spring started, AFTER Osama bin Laden was killed.
How convenient. Must be a coincidence I'm sure.

Obama allowed ISIS to take control of half of Iraq and massacre the Christians,
as he allowed them to take control of half of Syria, and Libya as necessary.
The US was working with Islamists throughout the Syrian Civil War.

ISIS looks like a CIA tool, like the Kurds or the Ukronazis.

[#Oda#]

Im not saying that ukrainians did it, but why do you think that its so impossible? Their government and Zelensky are totally insane, so i can imagine everything.

I did not express that, but yes, I doubt very much that the Ukraine is behind it.

Firstly Putin exhibited no evidence, secondly the border to the Ukraine is equal to impassable due to the war, thirdly the warning as well as the letter claiming responsibility are authentic and fourthly there are several reasons for Caucasian and also Central Asian ressentiments and rage: They have an over-average high quote of fallen soldiers in Ukraine, they feel as second-class people due to the ideology of Slavic-Orthodox superiority, then there was the Russian support of Assad which had the effect that the IS was driven back and there's the precarious situation of millions of low wage Caucasian and Central Asian workers in Russia, intensifying the conflict.

Last but not least Putin had been warned that an Islamistic assault could happen, but wiped it away, his whole security apparatus was concentrated on Ukraine - also a reason for him not to accuse the IS, but the Ukraine, which further might be a preparation for operations in Ukraine, that are plannend, as well.

So yes, I assume strongly that it was the ISPK.

[Jehan]

ISIS has leader who are know and declare as calif. Muslims pledge allegiance to him and to the califat
All of them have been killed by USA.

[dviz]

ISIS looks like a CIA tool, like the Kurds or the Ukronazis.

If the US was behind the attack what was the point of giving Russia advanced warning of the attack (including the city of the attack)? I've never heard of a terrorist attack with an advanced warning from the terrorists themselves about the location.

Are you saying that the US just dissed the Russian intelligence as incompetent, showing them as incapable of protecting the population despite disclosing the location to them?

Or is it more likely that Russia did nothing to prevent the attack (the police came after one hour and a half to the concert hall - how the fuck was that possible??) in order to use this tragedy to tighten the screws even more on the population in the name of "security", and lay the blame on Ukraine?

The questions are of course rhetorical, we all know the answers.

[Annihilus]

Moscow attackers are 'radical Islamists', Putin says for the first time

https://news.sky.com/story/russia-mo...-blog-12541713

[Ruggery]

Ukraine is a tool of the US, financed by the US, controlled politically from the US. Ukraine is not sovereign.
(The US has many other tools, like the Islamic State, Kurds, neonazis, antifas, etc.)
Some Islamists are fighting in Ukraine against Russia, as are some neonazis and antifas...

And recently US media has reported that the CIA had many bases inside Ukraine,
conducting offensive operations inside Russia YEARS before the Ukraine War began.

So all acts of Ukrainian or Jihadi terrorism in Russia can be understood as US terrorism against Russia outsourced to a third party.

Wait a minute, there are also Islamists fighting on Russia's side in the regions of Chechnya and Dagestan.