Terrorist attack in Moscow

[Scarface F]

They are pawns, such people get recruited via internet. They're braindead themselves plus nobody of their masters had a goal to save them.ideally they should have died in concert hall. All servants of Ukraine before were stupid idiots who got killed or incarcerated, they're cannon fodder. These ones are tajiks who did it for 500k roubles (5k euros).

Tajiks are very prone to ISIS recruitment and also other central Asians (not counting Pashtuns here as they were known as violent) and this is also overlooked.

Some most fanatic ISIS fighters who blew themselves up were Uzbeks. And nobody ever mentions central Asian problems with islamic fundamentalism.

[Blondie]

I know you are ironic, but lets be real.

Im trolling a little bit, but this conspiracy theory was in my mind long time ago

[Victor]

double

[Teutone]

What does not speak for the islamic state at all, in their belief system if you die on attack in daur al-harb (land of war, by that land of the enemies of islam) you become a shahid(martyr) and get granted 100% to end in paradise, that is the only guaranteed way to paradise in islam too.

So why would they even flee?

The only prominent case I can remember is Salah Abdeslam but only after his suicide vest failed to detonate, maybe that was a event where he is as individual did overthink his action or simply did not act rationally according to the horrific plans anymore and decided to flee.

All penetrators deciding to flee is complete bullshit, we can fully rule out ISIS.

They in the past claimed responsibility for attacks that were infact not done by ISIS.

I doubt the penetrators were islamists, makes no sense, they tried to appear islamists to cover who ever hired them.

[Jehan]

I don't see any reasons for ISIS to revendicate an attack they didn't made. Never heard of a case, of a fake revendication.
Especially with a timing that short. They release video just hours after the attack.

[Teutone]

I don't see any reasons for ISIS to revendicate an attack they didn't made. Never heard of a case, of a fake revendication.
Especially with a timing that short. They release video just hours after the attack.

Stop with your agenda and get real.

Debunk the shahid claim.

Plus here are events where ISIS falsely claimed responsibility:

Las Vegas Shooting: ISIS Claim of Responsibility Is Sign of Desperation

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/la...xperts-n807076


Mozambique Palma attack: Why IS involvement is exaggerated

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-56773012

ISIS false claims of responsibility cast doubt on its media credibility

https://diyaruna.com/en_GB/articles/.../09/feature-01

PATTERN RECOGNITION is a important trait, ISIS terrorists seek martyrdom in 99% of cases unless they are in an actual combat situation with an organized army or different militia, even there they are known to storm positions hoping to die as this grants them paradise.

Your agenda is basically to hide any involvement of the west or ukraine, predictable Jehan.

[Scarface F]

ISIS posted video of person getting their throat cut on their Telegram channel. Where did they get it from, if it's Ukraine behind it?

[Scarface F]

I read reports claiming those arrested are not even perpertrators and that Tajikistan says people whose names are on the passports are in Tajikistan. No idea what is correct and what not, like anyone else here.

But it's fishy.

[black hole]

It is indeed fucking weird that ISIS popped out of nowhere and killed random people.


"US had warned Russia ISIS was determined to attack". Of course, these scumbags knew before.

[Teutone]

ISIS posted video of person getting their throat cut on their Telegram channel. Where did they get it from, if it's Ukraine behind it?

There is footage everywhere, there is no official telegram site of ISIS, it would instantly get taken down, alot of journalists even fall for ISIS channels that arent even official.

Putin clearly said in his speech ""They tried to hide and moved towards Ukraine, where, according to preliminary data, a window was prepared for them on the Ukrainian side to cross the state border."

I am pretty sure he got more intel on the situation than anyone here in the forum or western journalists who are not gods or even good at their profession, anyone with a little sense of how organizations operate and communicate can research better than journalists or western fact checking websites.

I think the penetrators want to make it looks islamic motivated, that's for sure, but they forgot how to act like a jihadists and seek martyrdom.

FSB captured them alive, they will find out, but then every russophobe on this forum will deny whatever the Russian side claims, so its a pointless discussion.