What type of Nationalist are you?

[AussieScott]

Have a read and then we'll have an idea where most people stand on this issue in the forum.

Wave that (white) flag
Are 'civic nationalists' happier than ethnonationalists? According to the study reported in the UK Daily Mail, civic nationalists are happier, though people who reported being proud of their ethnicity were happier than those who felt no such pride. Still the message of the article is that 'civic nationalists' who identify with a flag and a government or system were the happiest. The academic 'experts' quoted in the piece say that civic nationalism is more ''inclusive'', being open in theory to 'minorities and immigrants'. They take it as a given that the feelings of 'minorities and immigrants' are of paramount importance, not the feelings of the actual native peoples, or the indigenous peoples of the various European countries. European countries were the focus of the study.

''It added: ‘More national pride correlated with greater personal well-being.

‘But the civic nationalists were on the whole happier, and even the proudest ethnic nationalists’ well-being barely surpassed that of people with the lowest level of civic pride.’ ''


If 'civic nationalists' are in fact happier, can we be surprised, when this is the only kind of nationalism that is respectable in the Western countries today? Our leaders throw a few sops to people who wave the flag and express patriotism toward the government and the establishment. The typical American patriot has a sort of mystical reverence for the Constitution and the flag and the Pledge of Allegiance, while not caring explicitly for his ethnic/racial kin who are his neighbors and fellow citizens. The typical patriot recites the rote nonsense such as ''I don't care where you are born, as long as you believe in free enterprise and the Constitution, and as long as you play by the rules, you're as American as I am.'' Yes, these people are the backbone of the current regime, as they are willing to play the game and to go along with the propaganda about how 'America is a nation of immigrants' and about how assimilation can make Americans of anybody from anywhere. There are people like these in all European countries as well, I suspect, though it seems as though Europe seems to have more innate ethnocentrism than is found in the United States.

And is it any wonder that ethnonationalists are unhappy when the outlook is so bleak in many of our countries? All Western countries seem to be besieged to some extent or other by mass immigration, legal and illegal, and all Western countries seem to be in the death grip of the globalists and their political puppets who are acting in opposition to the legitimate citizens of their respective countries. Anyone in the West who is a normal, ethnopatriotic, ethnoloyalist person, can only be chagrined or alarmed at what is happening to our countries and peoples.

But the article and the study are not meant to inform us; they are only meant to further promote 'civic nationalism' and to make invidious comparisons between civic and ethnic nationalism. Civic good, ethnic bad.

Wave that flag, and celebrate diversity, if you know what's 'good' for you.

Not a bad blog to read.

http://vanishingamerican.blogspot.co...hite-flag.html

[Logan]

Ethno Nationalist in my particular manner. I'm not too adverse to the others. Must be some type of mixture.

[Joe McCarthy]

None of them particularly fit me. I'm a nationalist in that I give primacy to the interests of the United States but I also believe in the viability of international institutions that promote peace and prosperity. In that sense I'm an internationalist. For example, I strongly support NATO.

[Turkey]

None of them particularly fit me. I'm a nationalist in that I give primacy to the interests of the United States but I also believe in the viability of international institutions that promote peace and prosperity. In that sense I'm an internationalist. For example, I strongly support NATO.

An imperialist?

[Contra Mundum]

Wish I could change my vote after I checked the definition of pan European nationalist. I wouldn't want Europe unified as one country but instead a coalition of nations living in peace together all committed to cultural and ethnic European preservation.

[Contra Mundum]

NATO should be disbanded and replaced with a new alliance encompassing all European nations including Iceland. From France to Russia and Scandinavia to the Mediterranean.

[Gaztelu]

I see myself as an ethno-semi-pan-European-internationalist (of sorts).

[GeistFaust]

In my case as an American I really can't lay a definite claim to ethnic nationalism like some indigenous peoples from European countries. But if I had any nationalism I would latch onto it would be ethnic nationalism. I don't really care for the rest especially civic nationalism. I actually think civic nationalists are perceived as being happier when they are not because they are giving themselves over to impersonal organizations with no comprehensive identity. Ethnic nationalism seems to have a much stronger core and allows for more versatility in terms of the dynamics of a national, cultural, linguistic, and ethnic identities.

[Argyll]

Ethnic nationalist, for me.

[Egbert]

Of primary importance to me is ethnicity and though I deeply sympathize with and occasionally support Ethnic Nationalism, I believe it to be politically unsalable in the modern West and clinging to that failing model simply to maintain ideological purity tends to alienate and isolate. For this reason, I typically promote and bridge to Civic Nationalism, as an indirect way of supporting ethnic interests generally and Anglo Imperialism ultimately.