Mentally, what is the difference between irish and english ?

[Creoda]

I've seen that poll before. I think it's true they identify as English first, but they seem more nationalistic for their country (sovereign state) rather than their region/nation. And while Saint George's Day is celebrated, I got the impression it's not very popular. I guess I may have been mistaken.

Labour are Socialists and devolution of ethnic minority regions is a global Socialist ideology that's done almost everywhere.

You're right about Southeast Scotland (applies to the Scottish Lowlands as a whole, but the southeast is most similar). But you'd think a few English ultranationalists would care about it, especially since those types are really against Scottish independence. Just look at the ultranationalists from the Balkans for comparison. Though I agree Lowlands Scots aren't really English anymore and its rational for the English to not claim it

And I suppose you're right about British nationalism being a type of English imperialism. But as long as they don't sacrifice Englishness for Britishness, which they mostly don't.

No, you were right that St George's Day isn't very popular in England, but then I don't believe St Andrew's Day is that popular in among the Scottish either, so it's not necessarily a yardstick of nationalism. If it was made a public holiday in England like the other days are in their respective countries it would become more popular though. And as an aside, I agree with the leftists when they say 'but St George was a Turk!', and a Norman-imposed Turk (sic) at that, over the real patron saint of England, St Edmund the Martyr, whose day is November 20.

[Anglo-Celtic]

True. The Jutes who came from the Jutland Peninsula have been ignored, probably because they were less numerous than either the Saxons or the Angles. Or their political influence wasn’t as powerful as that of Saxons. Due to the fact in every British speech as well as Gaelic, the Anglo-Saxons are referred to as just «*Saxons*».

Let's remember the Frisians too. "What are we, chopped mutton?" I know and understand that they were an extremely small percentage of the Germanic invaders, but they should be recognized as more than an asterisk in the history books. Should we call them newcomers, to stay woke?

[Anglo-Celtic]

I think the divide there is mostly between PC and non-PC people in both countries. English nationalism in itself has a reactionary quality that Irish nationalism doesn't since it's not the state nationalism, it's an ethnic designation against the more civic identity of British nationalism. Lefties like David Baddiel (Jewish) and Billy Bragg (half Italian) often talk about 'reclaiming Englishness from the racists'. The English are lucky to have lots of things like you mention to take a proxy national pride in, but it would be nice if it could all be synthesised into a more complete nationalism like others.

There's a contemporary trend of cultural genocide that's promoted by globalists who want to end sovereign states. You wear a tinfoil hat if you *don't* see that. I'm not referring to you, personally. I'm referring to the drones who are addicted to and overdosed on blue pills. It's beyond clear that the forces of globalism want to damage and destroy the Continental European and English-speaking countries as fast as they can, as much as they can. The Great Replacement is not just some Q-Anon crap made up by alphabet agencies to demonize their opponents, and the Japanese have now jumped on the national suicide train by welcoming tons of "newcomers" to share their cultural enrichment with them. This is all part of the (Kalergi) plan. Hungary is our great White hope, and I'm not referring to race, in that they still have the sense to not "fix" what ain't broke.

[Oliver109]

There's a contemporary trend of cultural genocide that's promoted by globalists who want to end sovereign states. You wear a tinfoil hat if you *don't* see that. I'm not referring to you, personally. I'm referring to the drones who are addicted to and overdosed on blue pills. It's beyond clear that the forces of globalism want to damage and destroy the Continental European and English-speaking countries as fast as they can, as much as they can. The Great Replacement is not just some Q-Anon crap made up by alphabet agencies to demonize their opponents, and the Japanese have now jumped on the national suicide train by welcoming tons of "newcomers" to share their cultural enrichment with them. This is all part of the (Kalergi) plan. Hungary is our great White hope, and I'm not referring to race, in that they still have the sense to not "fix" what ain't broke.

Hungary is ok for now but i have heard that the younger people in Hungary are just as woke as those in Manchester or Dublin etc.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Hungary is ok for now but i have heard that the younger people in Hungary are just as woke as those in Manchester or Dublin etc.

That's a shame if that's true. I hoped that Hungarians were immune to the woke virus.

[Grace O'Malley]

I thought Irish were obsessed with calling anyone born in Ireland if Nigerian or Polish "Irish" while patriotic English would be reluctant to refer to even people like me as English and probably idealize the English as a pale Anglo Nordic type. We know that South East Scotland is basically Scottish now in its makeup but we do still rally to the cause of unionism because we believe that Scotland is basically British and more English than Irish in it's culture and values. The Northern Irish are predominantly Catholic now so I can see the problem there and as I have said many times Northern Irish Catholics are definitely a distinct and more Brunet population than the British with a different culture i.e Palestine support.

The vast majority of Irish do not think a Polish man or an Nigerian is Irish. I can't imagine where you get that idea? Don't go by the media as it's the same in Britain where they call everyone no matter where they come from as Britons. You obviously don't talk to many bona fide Irishmen?

[Anglo-Celtic]

The vast majority of Irish do not think a Polish man or an Nigerian is Irish. I can't imagine where you get that idea? Don't go by the media as it's the same in Britain where they call everyone no matter where they come from as Britons. You obviously don't talk to many bona fide Irishmen?

Their media is as bad as our media. Irish people might buy the myth of orange man bad due to our paid State propagandists, and I'm not talking about the Orange Order.

[Mingle]

Let's remember the Frisians too. "What are we, chopped mutton?" I know and understand that they were an extremely small percentage of the Germanic invaders, but they should be recognized as more than an asterisk in the history books. Should we call them newcomers, to stay woke?

The idea that the migration to Britain was just an Angle-Saxon-Jute-Frisian one is a bit outdated. It's just framed that way because of Bede who only mentioned those tribes. Frisians are given less of a mention than the other three cause they didn't have any kingdoms in the English Heptarchy. It wasn't even an exclusively Germanic migration. It happened during the Migration Period where lots of different tribes were migrating, both Germanic and Celtic. It was more of a North Sea migration that included the Irish, Picts, Gauls, Franks, etc. though in much lesser number of course. There's an instance where the Picts and English team up to attack the Britons.

[Oliver109]

The vast majority of Irish do not think a Polish man or an Nigerian is Irish. I can't imagine where you get that idea? Don't go by the media as it's the same in Britain where they call everyone no matter where they come from as Britons. You obviously don't talk to many bona fide Irishmen?

Well your people or rather your original country people have a habit of electing lefties and many Irish at least online are always going on about how their nationalism is much more inclusive and "vibrant" than Ingerlish nationalism with it's skinheads, beer bellies and vulgar chants.

[Oliver109]

That's a shame if that's true. I hoped that Hungarians were immune to the woke virus.

I don't see why Hungarians would be that special, they are just another central-east Euro country, it is said that Orban enjoys most of his support in rural areas while Budapest is really against him, the countryside in Hungary like a lot of mainland Europe is said to be very elderly in general.