Fertility rate world map 2024

[Tooting Carmen]

Elon Musk tweeted something about underpopulation being the biggest problem, I still can't believe an engineer said that. I guess, he needs more people to work in his factories.

Depends where in the world. Not all of the world is as densely populated as South Asia, NE Asia minus Mongolia or Europe minus Russia and Scandinavia.

[Voskos]

Depends where in the world. Not all of the world is as densely populated as South Asia, NE Asia minus Mongolia or Europe minus Russia and Scandinavia.

Which means (and thanks for your remark), that he's probably talking about an underpopulation that concerns the white race solely. Because, for me , who think in terms of a human race, not necessarily in a political way, the problem is the opposite (overpopulation).

[Petalpusher]

Elon Musk tweeted something about underpopulation being the biggest problem, I still can't believe an engineer said that. I guess, he needs more people to work in his factories.

Musk is worried the world population is going to be replaced by idiots with 60 IQ, not that it would simply decrease. It's valid because he needs engineers but more importantly a humanity capable of projecting itself into the colonization of other worlds, with Space X (his real purpose, the rest of his business is to finance it). Less intelligent people will always be more prone to archaic beliefs and petty concerns than making humanity a planetary civilization.

[Voskos]

Musk is worried the world population is going to be replaced by idiots with 60 IQ, not that it would simply decrease. It's valid because he needs engineers but more importantly a humanity capable of projecting itself into the colonization of other worlds, with Space X (his real purpose, the rest of his business is to finance it). Less intelligent people will always be more prone to archaic beliefs and petty concerns.

Billionaire Elon Musk often tweets about "population collapse due to low birth rates is a much bigger risk to civilization than global warming." This time, he shared a retweet that highlighted the ongoing occurrence of a population crisis.

The post highlighted that the United States and Japan have witnessed a decrease in populations, while China, Singapore, the UK and South Korea have seen a significant drop in fertility rates. The post said that population collapse is one of the most substantial threats to civilization.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/popu...sation-4317182

[rothaer]

Indeed. Thus we can draw a conclusion that poverty and lack of education are actually an optimal environment for humans.

Because evolutionarily speaking, reproduction is supposed to be a very important goal of every living organism, if not the main one.

Meanwhile, ample comfort and education beyond a certain level seems to make a population wholly unsustainable, with childbearing dropping below replacemet levels.

Exactly.

If the humans were studied totally unbiased like bacteria on a petri dish this all would be even more obvious. The life (existence) and its development as growing or shrinking is the only relevant aspect. If a bacterium likes or dislikes its life, if it's laborious to the bacterium or not, is completely irrelevant.

Spoiler!

Btw. there was an examination of alcoholism in the Soviet Union in the 1930s that was also reported in the respective literature in the Third Reich. I recall Hans F. K. Günther referring to that. It turned out that very many men are hard alcoholics and quite no women, so it was essentially always only the man. Günther said that in spite of centuries or even more of hard alcoholism there could not be determined any genetic or health issues regarding the children, likely because the mothers didn't drink. And as for the figures families with non-alcoholic fathers got 3 children of which 3 survived till a particular age. And families with alcoholic fathers got 5 children in average with 4 children surviving.

Günther, that was a sharp thinker and usually commented on and assessed all conditions to my surprise stayed quiet and went on to the next topic. I understand this as the conclusions could have been pretty disturbing and complicating, lol. Now, it mustn't and likely doesn't apply to all populations in the world but as for this one male alcoholism was (/is) a biologically advantagous condition.

If one thinks more about it, it's even banal. Considering that alcohol is a pretty old substance to man, we today face the result of an already long biological adaptive and evolutionary process. And if the result after 2000 years is that you do have many alcoholics then this is obviously a biologically not very disadvantagous trait.

[Petalpusher]

Billionaire Elon Musk often tweets about "population collapse due to low birth rates is a much bigger risk to civilization than global warming." This time, he shared a retweet that highlighted the ongoing occurrence of a population crisis.

The post highlighted that the United States and Japan have witnessed a decrease in populations, while China, Singapore, the UK and South Korea have seen a significant drop in fertility rates. The post said that population collapse is one of the most substantial threats to civilization.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/popu...sation-4317182

Musk isn't woke in the slightest but he can't just go on tweeter and say "Whites + Eurasian should increase their rates and African along everything else should decrease it". He can say a lot of things, but there is a limit...The fact he retweeted this particular post exactly shows what is his real concern however.

I have less grandiloquent "plans" for humanity but i can understand we wants to see his life work coming to fruitation in his time span. A dose of megalomania is understandable in this case.

[Tooting Carmen]

Musk isn't woke in the slightest but he can't just go on tweeter and say "Whites + Eurasian should increase their rates and African along everything else should decrease it". He can say a lot of things, but there is a limit...The fact he retweeted this particular post exactly shows what is his real concern however.

I have less grandiloquent "plans" for humanity but i can understand we wants to see his life work coming to fruitation in his life span. A dose of megalominia is understandable in his case.

Isn't there something a little dissonant about your dreams of humans as a whole colonising other planets (except maybe Mars, what other planets are habitable for us anyway?) yet object so much to humans migrating from one part of Earth to another? (More specifically, non-Europeans who migrate to Europe).

[Voskos]

Musk isn't woke in the slightest but he can't just go on tweeter and say "Whites + Eurasian should increase their rates and African along everything else should decrease it". He can say a lot of things, but there is a limit...The fact he retweeted this particular post exactly shows what is his real concern however.

I have less grandiloquent "plans" for humanity but i can understand we wants to see his life work coming to fruitation in his time span. A dose of megalomania is understandable in this case.

I'm not sure it's the case, Musk often says dumb things. I've seen a video of him saying people should work in factories and produce enough energy to supply entire countries. He even went on to calculate the surface of said factory. See, that's the problems with a minority of high IQ people, they think they can be everything. They should stick to their respective fields. For him, now, it's sales, not even engineering.

[Petalpusher]

Isn't there something a little dissonant about your dreams of humans as a whole colonising other planets (except maybe Mars, what other planets are habitable for us anyway?) yet object so much to humans migrating from one part of Earth to another? (More specifically, non-Europeans who migrate to Europe).

There s nobody on other planets. No relation between immigration and investing new worlds. You can keep searching.

It's not particularly my dreams anyway, it should just be in the natural order for humans to do it. Musk think we are at risk of facing extinction by a cosmological event since we are only spread on one planet. I ve observed his interviews and this seems to be his greatest fear.

[Tooting Carmen]

There s nobody on other planets. No relation between immigration and investing new worlds. You can keep searching.

If you think humans can colonise entire planets (although the evidence thus far is that most if not all aren't really inhabitable anyway), then why is the idea of humans moving from one part of Earth to another so abominable? (Within reason, at least).