President of Ukraine Zelensky signs draconian law that all draftees 18-60 to remain in the military

[rothaer]

Future borders will make the definition who's Russian or Ukrainian finally cemented and it's very important, first of all, for us. I think Ukrainians deserve an ethnostate, based on territories of Central Ukraine. Majority of those who can't stand Russia will never return to New Russian territories, so they can always have an option to settle somewhere abroad or between their people in a small neutral Ukraine. I dislike badly the schizophrenia of "brother nations", Ukrainians were exploiting it heavily for decades, there must be a final divorce. Those who are with us, welcome to Russian nation, those who are not, be free to live in your own ethnostate.

I see our cities "invaded" by people from Kherson, Kharkov, Zaporozhie, Donbass regions and I just realize that it's full-fledged Russians not even in next gen, but already now and here.

At the same time, the 2023-24 is a period of full prohibitions of immigrant labor force in dozens of Russian regions, thousands of them get arrested and deported weekly, older given citizenships are getting reviewed and cancelled, so it feels like we will need more people from own and foreign reserves.

I can not assess this from my own knowledge but I can well imagine.

That are then now maybe pretty fateful events that are re-sorting indentities for the future.

I'm not yet really adapted to a final "divorce" and I somewhat doubt it. I speak of the Kiew region. As for more western regions like those having been part of interwar Poland, they are more deeply disconnected with Russia, also linguistically. However, I know an ethnic Ukrainian from the rural Kiew area that had stayed in Germany since the Soviet era and that (now just quitely) says that he doesn't really get the meaning of a separate Ukraine and all those things and he rolls his eyes.
To my perception (as a German) he ethnically identifies as a common Russian without denying being indigenous to the population of the Central Ukraine.

[Victor]

As for Kharkov's region, towns of Kupyansk and Volchansk were extremely pro Russian and like 80% of their populace fled to Russia during Russian army retreat. Pro Ukrainian minority set the revenge on remaining people, reporting them to Ukrainians whose troops went in there. Lots of them died, got to prison or lost their property.

Teachers who agreed to work in schools during Russian period, food providers who "collaborated" with occupants etc etc. These "re educating camp" is total bullshit, again, targeted to exterior consumption of foreign audience. Normally, kids have been taken to rest from zone close to frontline, lots of parents agreed to it, it's a part of normal attitude to citizens - offer them social guarantees, medical care, child care etc. I dunno from what and how should be an average Russian speaking and thinking kid from Volchansk, which has always been more culturally and economically tied to Belgorod than Kharkov, has to be "re educated in".

Ukrainian propaganda is so hootzpa styled that for the pathetic propaganda movie (it won something at Oscar awards) about Mariupol, they use a pregnant woman Marianna Vishemirska as "victim of Russian bombings" while Marianna now is in Putin's crew and hates Ukraine, but they use her even on cover for this movie

They were literally forced to pose for the photo cameras when soldiers forced them to change location from pregnancy section to somewhere else:



That's her now, she's in Putin's crew in Donbass

[Victor]

Lots of citizens of Mariupol, Melitopol, Berdyansk and other cities who fled own cities during the first phase of war are already home long ago, some of them came back home through Europe: Ukraine->Poland->Belorussia->Russia or Ukraine->Poland->Russia (through Kaliningrad), some of them were returning home in 2022 summer through a grey zone in Zaporozhie with a pretext like they have "old parents left" there etc until Ukraine didn't block this possibility.

[Dušan]

He speaks in spins because many NATO members didn't spend enough on military as they should. Doubt that's the case today lolz. Baltic states, Poland and Scandinavia (+ Germany) provide biggest amount of arms to Ukraine (not a NATO member but they are increasing military spending and production).

Dušan lives in fairytale world of wishful thinking hoping big bad Russia will liberate "Serb lands" for them.

Nah, we dont need help of Russia, we are strong enough to liberate southern province of Serbia within 15 days, in case of West finally get out from here.

Without any assistance from West, separatists in Kosovo are easily defeated.

[Scarface F]

Nah, we dont need help of Russia, we are strong enough to liberate southern province of Serbia within 15 days, in case of West finally get out from here.

Without any assistance from West, separatists in Kosovo are easily defeated.

Hahahahaha

[Dušan]

Hahahahaha

Keep laughing.

Western bitches will leave Kosovo sooner or later.

And then party begins.

[Victor]

Nah, we dont need help of Russia, we are strong enough to liberate southern province of Serbia within 15 days, in case of West finally get out from here.

Without any assistance from West, separatists in Kosovo are easily defeated.

I doubt west will get out of Kosovo in near future just like Russia won't leave Abkhazia. Both are needed for regional control. It's the same "If" as Feiichy mentioned, ifs don't matter much. I see no reasons why Yanks would abandon Bondsteel

[Scarface F]

Keep laughing.

Western bitches will leave Kosovo sooner or later.

And then party begins.

Albanians would anihilate Serbs.

[Victor]

Albanians would anihilate Serbs.

Both Kosovo and Abkhazia are not capable of defending themselves in case of Serbian/Georgian army attacks without being preserved by NATO/Russia. Both are failed entities needed for regional control.

[Scarface F]

Both Kosovo and Abkhazia are not capable of defending themselves in case of Serbian/Georgian army attacks without being preserved by NATO/Russia. Both are failed entities needed for regional control.

It's nonsense, Kosovo Albanian population is much younger, much wilder than Serbs and would be easy to organize, they only need weapons. Plus millions of Albanians in neighbouring countries wouldn't sit quietly and watch.

Albanian nummber is Balkans is now almost equal to Serbs, but with notably younger population.