If Bell Beakers invaded Ireland how is it that many people there look distinct from other Europeans?

[Septentrion]

Perhaps but Corsica isn't that different to southern France or Italy and Mallorca isn't that different to Spain. Not to mention the Greek islands with the exception of Cyprus.

Corsica is different from mainland France. It is as Mediterranean as Mediterranean could be. While in France it’s the Alpine which holds sway. Even Southern France has nothing on Corsica. You’ll still get some strong Alpinid strains in those Mediterranean French folk. Corsica is more in line with Sardinia and nearby Mediterranean islands.

[fromjutt]

Ireland is said to be overwhelmingly Bell Beaker in genetic makeup but the fact is that people there still look extremely distinct to the Germans or Dutch or wherever the Beakers came from, a pure Brunn is extremely hard to find in continental Europe for example.

because beakers already looked distinct to modern germanic, proven by anthropology, also the problem is irish are mixed with hallstatt culture ancestry, you must be aware of the subsequent celtic migration to ireland, well because of that, the phenotypes became more diverged

[fromjutt]

Because phenotypes evolve and are not static.

this is absolutely false, there is no such thing as phenotypic "evolution" only thing evolution or environmental factors would influence is jaw size and overall robcsusity or delicacy.

[fromjutt]

Heavily Corded Ware Germanics and heavily Med/EEF Celts overran and mostly replaced the original Bell Beaker Bronze Age stock in Continental NW Europe, by contrast it's still the majority of ancestry in Ireland.

thank god someone smart in this thread who understands there was a different look between germanic and celts and bell beaker

[fromjutt]

In continental Europe, Brunns tend to be found more so in the very north, in Scandinavia (notably Sweden or Norway). This is because it’s a population (aboriginal) which was present in North - Western Europe before the others. It has been better «*preserved*» in the British Isles, particularly Ireland due to the insular location. So to this day, we can’t tell if the Bell Beakers were Brunn or Nordid or both. Germany and the Netherlands are not islands thus a lot harder to «*preserve*» anything to the same level as the Brunn type. Nevertheless, in the Fehmarn Island off Germany’ s Baltic coast, another phenotype (aboriginal) has been preserved in that part of Northern Europe. It’s the Borreby. These two races or phenotypes whatever you want to call them were much more present in this part of Europe before the others arrived such as the Nordid, Alpinid, etc…

hahahahahha, what a big psuedo anthropology ahhaah, if i asked you for proof or genetic evidence for any of what your saying you would evade shamefully

[Septentrion]

Every population is distinct to a certain extent. This is what you would expect. Even Danish don't look the same as Norwegians and Dutch and Belgians don't look the same. Population have some crossover because no population is fully isolated. And the Irish haven't been isolated for 4,500 years obviously. If they were they would be very distinctive genetically and be very distant from other populations.

Oh well, I'm afraid to tell you this, but the Irish and Scottish in comparison to mainland continental Europeans are among the "least - mixed" people. Geographical location explains it all, looking at these countries located off the northwestern coast of the European mainland. Only a few populations made it there. This is exactly why, according to a study done in 2010, Ireland and Scotland scored the lowest haplotype diversity (HD) levels in Europe! While the highest levels of HD are in Southern European populations (e.g. Portugal and Bulgaria). England was seen also pretty distinct, but less so than Ireland and Scotland.

[Septentrion]

hahahahahha, what a big psuedo anthropology ahhaah, if i asked you for proof or genetic evidence for any of what your saying you would evade shamefully

Don't laugh like a fool! I will advise you to re-read my statement before I answer. It might look pretty simple, but read again then you'll understand. Don't rush, remember I'm not new on this thread and forum. Put that through your skull, OK!

[Septentrion]

4500 years of being mostly isolated from continentals will do it. Compare to the English who are mostly descended from continental Europeans only 1600 years ago yet are still noticeably distinct from all modern continental NW European groups.

Very good. You are the one right now on this thread who has the most correct answer. Genius!

[Septentrion]

Ireland is said to be overwhelmingly Bell Beaker in genetic makeup but the fact is that people there still look extremely distinct to the Germans or Dutch or wherever the Beakers came from, a pure Brunn is extremely hard to find in continental Europe for example.

The Irish have a much more "purer" lineage than the Dutch or German or Belgian put together due to a lower HD level as a country.

[Septentrion]

Yes, Scots aren't really that different to other British Isles people and are definitely the most brunet Europeans for their latitude.

If you mean by hair colour, then you might be right as Scotland has more brown hair levels than countries such as Estonia, Southern Sweden, Southern Norway, Denmark. This make sense as those other countries are the blondest - haired on earth, but the Scots are the whitest - skinned and reddest - haired for their latitude as well. You always don't mention that point probably on purpose. Scots are just as light - eyed as those populations.